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Fri, 6th May 2016

The East Anglian gold rush for dino dung

Dr Robert Evans, Anglia Ruskin University

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If youíve followed environmental stories over the years, youíll know this tune. CoproliteScientists and environmentalist have long been singing off the same songbook when it comes looking after our planet - we take too much oil and gas out of the ground, we cut down too many trees and inject too much carbon dioxide into the atmosphere...

But drum not often banged is the dwindling supply of phosphorus. Itís is an essential element for all life. It makes up our DNA and all organisms need it for energy. It cannot be replaced; there is no synthetic substitute: In other words, without phosphorus, there is no life. And so this week on the Naked Scientists, we investigate whether we're running out of phosphorus for fertliser. But first, Graihagh Jackson went on a field trip to the outskirts of Cambridge to find out how us Brits were once self-sufficient in phosphate production thanks to dinosaur dung! -  And to ask Dr Robert Evans whether we could be once again...

Graihagh - Hi Bob.

Bob - I hope you havenít been here too long?

Graihagh - I have but Iíve been enjoying the sunshine. I didnít realise how long it would take to cycle.

Bob - Well, Iíve got a tremendous cold...

Thatís Dr Robert Evans from Anglia Ruskinís University and, despite his tremendous cold, he still let me pick his brains about phosphorus.

Robert - Oh phosphorus. P, phosphite. Itís an element that most plants need to grow. Itís part of proteins, itís part of your body, itís part of plants. Most soils in Europe, and I think probably worldwide, are short of phosphite so itís a key ingredient for plant growth. So if you want to improve yields, youíve got to put these kind of things on.

Graihagh - Iíve read all sorts of weird sources of phosphate. Things like blood and bones and all sorts of things.

Robert - Yes, thatís right. When phosphate fertilizers were first devised, it was mainly using rock phosphate and then when we had the phosphate nodules here, the dinosaur poo, it was obviously much cheaper doing it here.

Graihagh - What was this dinosaur poo? How was it formed?

Robert - Cambridge Greensand was forming over about 100 million years ago and, whether itís really dinosaur poo or whether it just looks like dinosaur poo, I think thereís quite a bit of argument about that.

Now then, we are literally about there. Thatís Coton, the village there.

Graihagh - These instead of ordnance survey's theyíre like geology surveys?

Robert - The geology maps and these, in places, are almost identical but the geology maps weíre looking at the rock depth. We were looking at it in the top 1.2 - 1.5 metres. So, if you look on here, Cambridge Greensand is literally in Cambridge - thatís it. 92a.

Graihagh - This is sort of a light blue colour weíre looking at and youíre right, it is a very thin stretch that goes from sort of Southwest Cambridge all way through North/Northeast Cambridge. But, what I notice is, all of Cambridge urban area is also in this light blue colour.

Robert - Thatís because itís urban.  Nine on this map means disturbed ground so itís a very similar colour to urban.

Graihagh - So itís not that Cambridge is sitting on a huge supply of....

Robert - It is actually. Thereís probably quite a lot of it. In places it was really widely excavated and thereís quite a lot of - I think the outskirts of Cambridge was excavated for the coprolite diggings.

Graihagh - And on the outskirts of Cambridge is Coton where one of the many excavations of coprolite took place. We wandered over to an adjacent field to a rather underwhelming plaque...

This is a tiny sign...

Robert - You have to get down on your hands and knees to read it. Itís not very spectacular but I was absolutely gobsmacked when I saw it.

Graihagh - Gobsmacked because this sign represents a significant part of history - The East Anglian Goldrush.

So coprolite is the commercial name for phosphatic nodules which were formed in the rock under your feet, deposited around 110 million years ago. When experiments showed locally mined coprolite could be turned into fertilizer much more cheaply than imported bone meal, the great coprolite rush of the 1850s was on. And thereís a picture as well actually of the diggings near Orwell and Barrington.

Robert - The industry grew and landowners, and tenants, and agricultural workers alike could make money from the new industry. Itís just amazing how quickly the labour market expanded.

Graihagh - Something like Barrington, it said before the coprolite industry there was no-one living there. During the industry there was 155 and then afterwards there were 3. So, actually, Barrington was born because of coprolite?

Robert - Yes. It says in the peak, 1877, Cambridgeshire produced almost all of the 54,000 tons of raw phosphate used for manufacture in Britain. So, in actual fact, we were self-sufficient in fertilizer. That was absolutely gobsmacking!

Graihagh - Given today that weíre not self-sufficient at all.

Robert - In practically anything! The industry waned in the 1880s as cheaper phosphate was imported from North America and today, most of the coprolite diggings like this one are filled in and the land returned to agricultural use.

Graihagh - Does that mean we can be self-sufficient again?

Robert - No - itís all been dug out.

Graihagh - All of it?

Robert - Well itís something like 40 out of thousands of acres thatís left. So thereís probably no more coprolite diggings to be done.

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