Steven Broyles asked:
Dave reported on a recent show that there are bumblebees high in the Himalayas. Given that air pressure is lower and air is less dense at high elevations, do bees and other insects at high elevations have flight adaptations to generate the same lift?
Lift is proportional to the density of air that is being displaced by wings. Are their wings proportionally longer? Do the insects fly faster than insects at lower elevations?
Cortland, NY, USA
Kat Arney put this question to Cambridge ecologist, Felicity Bedford...
Felicity - It’s more to do with the way that their wings move than a specific physiological adaptation for them to be able to fly, as such. So the ways that bees fly generally is a little bit different to how you might expect. Their wings don’t actually go up and down - they go backwards and forwards and the lift is generated because the wings are at a slight angle and they create little vortices at the ends of their wings. Low pressured air lifts the bees. So that’s how they fly and that’s one of the things which cause a little bit of confusion when people were looking at bees early on and trying to say how on earth do these things get off the ground.
Kat - There’s that whole thing about - Oww bumblebees shouldn’t be able to fly, ha ha - but clearly they can.
Felicity - Yes. A myth started by an entomologist of all people. But they can fly, they’re very good at it and it’s because of this almost helicopter-like movement that they do that. So when they’re at high altitudes - there’s a paper by a group that took some bees into the lab, put those bees into different air pressures inside containers and they looked at the way their wings were moving. And bees in the lower pressures were actually beating at the same rate, so same number of beats. Those beats were taking a larger arc, they were scooping more air effectively with that wing beat, so they were going further with their wings to generate more lift.
Kat - Does this mean that they’re having to use more energy? Do bees in the Himalayas get tireder? Do they need to eat more nectar?
Felicity - I guess they would do. They’re certainly doing more movement for each wing beat. Their wings are moving faster within each wing beat to cover that slightly further distance and effectively use more of the minimal air that is there.
Chris - Why is the frequency the same? Why didn’t they just beat their wings faster - is that a nervous system pre-programmed thing that the wings have to beat at a certain rate, therefore they can’t change that?
Felicity - I don’t know. I guess it something to do with bees do vary the way that they fly generally. They’re over-engineered so that they can carry pollen when they’re foraging and they can carry a lot more than their own body weight, in fact despite them being this large insects with small wings and, of course, they need to be able to adapt their flight to escape predators as well. So there is that adaptation within bumble bees generally even without taking this altitude into account and this must be one of the ways in which they can compensate.
Steven Broyles asked the Naked Scientists: Hello Chris, Dave reported on a recent show that there are bumblebees high in the Himalayas. Given that air pressure is lower and air is less dense at high elevations, do bees and other insects at high elevations have flight adaptations to generate the same lift? Lift is proportional to the density of air that is being displaced by wings. Are their wings proportionally longer? Do the insects fly faster than insects at lower elevations? Thank you, Steve Cortland, NY, USA What do you think? Steven Broyles , Sun, 19th Oct 2008