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Have a look at this New York Times article:Sex and Depression: In the Brain, if Not the Mind http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/20/health/views/20mind.html
Quote from: SteveD on 17/01/2009 22:08:16 Total % loss...For me1) openness to dating 2% loss2) dating 5% loss3) arousal behavior 10% loss4) genital contact 20%loss5) orgasmic sexuality 95% lossAfter a two day experiment at stage 2), for us, dating, my partner and I went back to stage 4), for us, non orgasmic genital contact.I'm feeling fatigued, confused, flushed, tired, runny nose, arthritic in my knees and lower back.I'm negotiating with my partner to do a three day experiment at stage 2, for us, after the long weekend and before a three day trip we have next week.Steve, please stay on topic. This is a medical forum on postorgasmic difficulties. "1) 2% loss - openness to dating 2) 5% loss - dating and the like is not serious or scientific discussion of post orgasm. This is not a blogsite as you call it. Repeated posts to this effect will be grounds for dismissal. Thank you.
Total % loss...For me1) openness to dating 2% loss2) dating 5% loss3) arousal behavior 10% loss4) genital contact 20%loss5) orgasmic sexuality 95% lossAfter a two day experiment at stage 2), for us, dating, my partner and I went back to stage 4), for us, non orgasmic genital contact.I'm feeling fatigued, confused, flushed, tired, runny nose, arthritic in my knees and lower back.I'm negotiating with my partner to do a three day experiment at stage 2, for us, after the long weekend and before a three day trip we have next week.
I don't think it's irrelevant to the forum to discuss the arousal behavior issue and its impact on POIS.
Currently I am not experiencing any symptoms of POIS , simply, because I am not being orgasmic.
Demo, I'm glad to hear the testosterone is providing relief for you!
Very interesting article, just imagine if it mentioned us in passing, it would have been a wide net...maybe next time. []
I'm still chaste, and wishing I was from the beginning. I have grown more convinced that sex outside of emotional attraction is naturally detrimental to a person's well being.
Quote from: SteveD on 20/01/2009 18:51:42Currently I am not experiencing any symptoms of POIS , simply, because I am not being orgasmic.Thanks Steve. Tangential discussions are encouraged, but the main purpose of this specific thread, as I understand it, is to share critical information which will help us overcome this illness. With this in mind, it is best to be precise and succinct, when possible. Too much peripheral discussion hijacks the thread, and makes it hard for newcomers to sort through all of this information, and find the posts that will be most helpful to them. If you feel the need to continually express the specifics of how this problem affects your romantic life on a day to day basis, (e.g. whether or not you are 2% more open to dating at a given time, e.g. whether or not the atmosphere in a 5 star restaurant made you aroused, etc.), I encourage you to continue this dialogue privately with those who have expressed interest.
Quote from: reuniting on 20/01/2009 21:53:52Have a look at this New York Times article:Sex and Depression: In the Brain, if Not the Mind http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/20/health/views/20mind.htmlThis is an excellent article, Reuniting. Finally, there is a legit article that sees this problem as a physiological/chemical malfunction. It says his patients improved with SSRIs, but I have to say, the SSRI my neurologist gave me did nothing but reap hell upon me, and I had to get stop taking it after a week of tourture. Has anyone else here tried an SSRI and found it improved symptoms? If so, it would be evidence that serotonin is also part of the problem, and it would be something I would stress on my next visit to the doc. Glad to hear the testosterone is helping Demo
Underwater,I just looked at my lab report, and it shows in the testosterone area:- Testosterone, Bioavailable- Testosterone, Total- (SHGB) Sex Hormone Globulin Binding- Testosterone, Free
DMAEzoloftRight now, I am thinking that high doses of spirulina, vit b, and lecithin are saving my ass.I just started DMAE... has this been discussed here before?By the way, for me zoloft (ssri) has worked... but just like everything else, after awhile- I can't tell if it is working anymore or not.
John, I wish I saw the difference in my life. Some of my absolute worst, most devastating POIS episodes have come from NE's, in some cases just "harmlesss" physical releases with no "lust" attached to it! My only escape from the horror of NE was aging. Married for over 30 years, I have observed that sex with "emotional attraction" was equally POIS-devastating, compared to NE's and/or "unchaste behavior". I must admit to the latter to maintain credibility ps - John, thank you for not being angry with me over our apparent disagreements on some issues
...differing opinions are desirable in a forum. I sense that perhaps you are cautious of my pro-chastity/ anti-lust tack, as you know it is founded in my faith, which you reject. Am I right?
"how tired am I going to be, if I go through to the orgasm?" Though that is something I have now trained myself (quite successfully) to avoid.