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Title: No big bang theory
Post by: jccc on 29/04/2015 00:10:32
Hubble's law and the expansion of space

Hubble's law is the main leg to support the big bang theory.

Hubble's law has two possible explanations. Either we are at the center of an explosion of galaxies—which is untenable given the Copernican principle—or the universe is uniformly expanding everywhere.  -  from wiki

i have another explanation. my theory to explain the expending space is there is no expansion at all.

to any observer, local star/gravitational field will accelerate incoming lights from all directions.

the closer star lights will blueshift the most due to stronger gravity, therefore, the farther away stars look like the more redshift. just like what we observed.

if we stand near by a black hole and look around, will we observe the universe expending much faster?

if we go deep space that is far far away any stars and look around, is the universe still expending?

thoughts?
Title: Re: No big bang theory
Post by: jccc on 29/04/2015 04:37:51
gravity can bend light path, also can slowdown light.

stars with different mass at same distance, we should see the heavier star light more reddish. 

if the big bang theory is not correct, the origin of the universe is still a mystery to be discovered.
Title: Re: No big bang theory
Post by: PmbPhy on 29/04/2015 08:21:04
That's not a theory. That's a postulate. A postulate based on nothing but a mere wish is no postulate at all but mere wishful thinking. Your so called "postulate" contradicts the cosmological principle which states that matter is uniformly distributed throughout the entire universe. Observations have shown that to be true on a large scale throughout the visible universe. If what you claim is true then that wouldn't be the case. There's also no way that your postulate can jive with general relativity.

Back to the drawing board for you.
Title: Re: No big bang theory
Post by: jeffreyH on 30/04/2015 01:26:18
The value of the shift in wavelength is varying over time. If you do not know this then you are ignorant of the facts. To start making assertions from a position of ignorance makes you look foolish. You don't want to look foolish do you? Go and read up on this properly and then I may have a conversation with you about it. We may both learn something. However, if you are unwilling to do this I will let you go on in ignorance making such foolish statements.
Title: Re: No big bang theory
Post by: guest39538 on 02/05/2015 09:59:55
Hubble's law and the expansion of space

Hubble's law is the main leg to support the big bang theory.

Hubble's law has two possible explanations. Either we are at the center of an explosion of galaxies—which is untenable given the Copernican principle—or the universe is uniformly expanding everywhere.  -  from wiki

i have another explanation. my theory to explain the expending space is there is no expansion at all.

to any observer, local star/gravitational field will accelerate incoming lights from all directions.

the closer star lights will blueshift the most due to stronger gravity, therefore, the farther away stars look like the more redshift. just like what we observed.

if we stand near by a black hole and look around, will we observe the universe expending much faster?

if we go deep space that is far far away any stars and look around, is the universe still expending?

thoughts?

Jcc your thoughts are erratic try to think a bit more in your presentation,   space is not expanding JCC, matter is moving away from our focal point beyond our focal vanishing points in all directions.   It is simply a matter of we can not see matter beyond the black backg ground of space because the matter is visual smaller than a pin point.   Proven physics on earth that objects vanish at distance to sight.  Can anyone see a mouse at 500 yrds?

No off cause not  you would have to use a device.  If my devices range was 500 yrds and i rotated 360 degrees my world would be a circle.
Title: Re: No big bang theory
Post by: jccc on 07/06/2015 15:33:07
i don't think/didn't said space is expending, i said there is no expending at all.

light spectrum shift is caused by gravitation, space is not expending, the distance between stars is not expending.

I think the big band theory is illusion.
Title: Re: No big bang theory
Post by: chiralSPO on 07/06/2015 16:04:55
If the redshift is caused by our local environment, why does the light from farther stars get red-shifted more? And wouldn't the rest of the universe look more blue shifted if we were in a strong gravitational well that was "pulling" the light in?
Title: Re: No big bang theory
Post by: jccc on 07/06/2015 16:31:37
did i said if we look around from near a black hole, we will see the universe expending faster?

the farther star, the less gravitation force between its hot gasses and observer, the less blue shift/more red shift.

nothing wrong with my concept?