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Life Sciences => Physiology & Medicine => Topic started by: neilep on 06/10/2008 16:59:33
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Dear Feet Fetishists and Feetologists,
See my foot ?
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Nice eh ?...poooo !!....hmmmmmmmmmm...Roquefort (My absolutest all time favourite cheese matured in caves)
My foot hurts !..As ewe may or may not know I have been having a wild un-abandoned love affair with my treadmill since June.....and when they say that ' love hurts ' they are true !!!..
Could it be now after months of fast walking (I'm now up to 45-50 miles a week) that the heel of my foot is becoming tenderised ?..it just plain hurts !..as does the other one too....I was kind of hoping that after all this time it might develop some kind of thick skin and toughen but it's not !!... will it ?
What exactly is making the pain ?..it's like an ache ..but it's not bad enough to make me stop...Am I tenderizing the muscle ?..Can I do something /wear something there to protect it or shall I continue as is,in the hope that my feet acclimatise ?
Just like Dionne Warwick I'm gonna ' walk on by' stand on the street corner flash ewe my woolly belly and hope you can pay me some compliments in the way of some feet related relief orientated answers !!
Hugs &Shmishes
Neil
Foot Philanderer
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Ode To Treadmill:
Oh Treadmill mine, Ewe sweat my shirt
I walk on ewe and you does hurt
I know you're there to be be a mill
But you're hurting my feet..the tread of Neil !
(Quality Poemage..and ewe know it !)
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Ewe may have developed callouses that are applying pressure to the softer and more sensitive tissue beneath - instead of softer tissues at the heel changing shape to cushion and spread the pressure, the hard and relatively inflexible callouses could be pressing into the deeper heel tissue.
Warning - I am not a foot scientist - see your quack about it.
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Ewe may have developed callouses that are applying pressure to the softer and more sensitive tissue beneath - instead of softer tissues at the heel changing shape to cushion and spread the pressure, the hard and relatively inflexible callouses could be pressing into the deeper heel tissue.
Warning - I am not a foot scientist - see your quack about it.
Gosh !! Than EWE LeeE
Oh know !!..Wouldn't callouses be visible at all ?...what ewe can see is the remains of a massive blister but that was so last week !! [;D]..and that's on the back of the foot..
Oh my !!...It just feels tender..I can walk and drive and do all those other foot related fun things !
If it gets unbearable I will indeed do as ewe kindly advise and seek out the quack !
Thank Ewe LeeE
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The blister may have to do with your shoes, for one. Make sure that they fit properly and that you have them tied snugly all along the foot (though not enough to cut off circulation).
As for the achey foot, you may have bruised the bone in your heel a bit. This can definitely happen when you start to walk a lot. Be careful when your on your mill not to slam down your heel. Walk like you're trying to be silent and sneak up on someone, putting your foot down gently on the heel and rolling forward onto your toe each time.
I also suggest getting some good shoe inserts with the jelly stuff in the heel part. There are also some good padded athletic socks you can where. I love Thorlo brand, but I don't know if they're available where you are.
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The blister may have to do with your shoes, for one. Make sure that they fit properly and that you have them tied snugly all along the foot (though not enough to cut off circulation).
As for the achey foot, you may have bruised the bone in your heel a bit. This can definitely happen when you start to walk a lot. Be careful when your on your mill not to slam down your heel. Walk like you're trying to be silent and sneak up on someone, putting your foot down gently on the heel and rolling forward onto your toe each time.
I also suggest getting some good shoe inserts with the jelly stuff in the heel part. There are also some good padded athletic socks you can where. I love Thorlo brand, but I don't know if they're available where you are.
THANK EWE Evie
yes..yes..bruised bone sounds good to me....I am walking ...albeit fast...trying to make as less impact as I can but I am sure you're great advice also with regards to foot inserts will really help.....padded socks too !....Thorlo eh ?..must check em' out !..see if they supply here in the UK "
Thank ewe very much !!
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Neil do you have air cushioned heals? like Nikeair trainers?
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Neil do you have air cushioned heals? like Nikeair trainers?
No, no I don't ...will ewe buy some and send them to me please Mr Andrew Sir ?..I'm a size eight !..thanks lol (Hugs the Andrew) [;D]
presumably these are shoes worth investing in yes ? [:)]
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No Neil they are definately not, because the pedal bone normally compresses the tissue on the base of the foot. With these shoes it tries to punch a hole through the skin causing serious damage over long term use. Think about the difference in compression and tearing forces as the bone tries to go down into the air pocket while the surrounding foot area is supported.
So might be worth experimenting with different trainers Neil
Andrew
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No Neil they are definately not, because the pedal bone normally compresses the tissue on the base of the foot. With these shoes it tries to punch a hole through the skin causing serious damage over long term use. Think about the difference in compression and tearing forces as the bone tries to go down into the air pocket while the surrounding foot area is supported.
So might be worth experimenting with different trainers Neil
Andrew
Thank Ewe Andrew..Advice received with gratitude. I don't use those kind of shoes , just a few different pairs of regular trainers (el cheapo)
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Go to a specialist shoe store and get them to 'map your step' (if we have it here in the backwash of the world you are bound to have something similar)
Then look at inserts for your trainers (sneakers, tackies - whatever you call them) You can get ones that encourage you to step 'correctly'.
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Pain at a bony location in the body, associated with increased activity about that bony location, should be thought of as having to do with the structures associated with activity. The one comes to mind would be the tendon inserting onto that bone, coming from the muscle involved with that activity.
Muscles involved with greater then common activities tend to develop greater resting tone which means that they not fully relax during non-activity time. This condition sends signals of abnormality to the tendon, more so to the point of insertion on the bone where sense organs are located, and cause a condition that is remarkably similar to inflammation.
The condition therefore will respond to anti-inflammatories but the cure lies in undoing the abnormal increase in tone. stretching is the answer. As the Achilles tendon comprises tendon tissue from multiple muscles, some which originate above the knee joint and some from below, stretching will have to be done in one of two ways, depending which muscle is the culprit or will have to be done in two ways (two different stretches) so as to get the right muscle without knowing which one(s) are involved: stretch the calf with the knee bent and stretch the calf with the knee straight. Hanging the heel of the sidewalk while supporting oneself on the lamppost is probably the easier thing to do but one could always go see a xyzpractor who'll take your money and might not get it right.
More elaborate workout of this idea can be found on a knol posted in google knol http://knol.google.com/k/bert-van-wijck/pain/1mbtdoacyaukm/2?locale=en#
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Quality poemage indeedy!
you need a Ped Egg Neily..!!
Seriously look at the socks you are wearing and I bet your foot heel area there where you are pointing is worn really thin.. thin heeled socks will cause the back of your foot to hurt and kind of burn when you walk.. Costco carries there white really thick footed socks that really go a long way to prevent that hurt,, they are really thick gray bottoms the uppers are white.. you can feel them through the package they are incredible socks I highly recommend them in your quest to find heel comfort Sheepy!
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what about all them barefooted natives who do without??
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They are not wearing shoes at all for the foot to rub on! I like being barefooted myself...
But it does not make for pretty feet! LOL
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so it's the thick callus on the outside of neil's foot that is sore? explain the nerve innervation to that structure (the callus) sensing that rubbing>>there ain't none as i know it, the sensory nerves are much deeper inside
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so it's the thick callus on the outside of neil's foot that is sore? explain the nerve innervation to that structure (the callus) sensing that rubbing>>there ain't none as i know it, the sensory nerves are much deeper inside
I don't know what is causing Neily's foot to hurt but, I would not hesitate to check his socks and improve them before I sent him off to see a doctor.. that would cost way more then a package of socks.. I am all for trying to see what can be done first simply before jumping to conclusions.. of course I am no Doctor and Neil Knows that! LOL..
Well Does he really have a callus There?
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to not get hung up on semantics, callus is the thick-thicker-thickest stuff that evolves upon the skin as pressure/usage/impact is received by that area under consideration. like on the hand, not having used a shovel much, thinner and paler skin prevails at the base of the fingers but after a few episodes of shoveling and after the blisters have healed the signals to the skin cells are sufficient to synthesize additional material and the workman's hand shows a more brownish/yellowish appearance at the base of those fingers. callus has formed and is normal for that person. neil's foot shows normal callous for someone who uses a foot to walk on and has formed the callus expected. his pain is deeper inside and relates to irritation of the tendon due to increased recent activity.
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I know what callous is.. LOl I see some on his foot more up around the ball of his feet thats why I made a joke about the Ped Egg! eh?
Are you a podiatrist?
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i was merely reacting to the way you phrased "does he really have A CALLUS" there. as if a local abnormality had grown upon his foot
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LOL Ok.. Sorry about the way I phrased that!
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Go to a specialist shoe store and get them to 'map your step' (if we have it here in the backwash of the world you are bound to have something similar)
Then look at inserts for your trainers (sneakers, tackies - whatever you call them) You can get ones that encourage you to step 'correctly'.
Thank Ewe JnA .
I've always been proud that I have a good gait. My feet are always forward and never pointing outwards. It would be great to get my footsteps mapped though.
Thank ewe for the advice. Definitely worthy of investigation.
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Pain at a bony location in the body, associated with increased activity about that bony location, should be thought of as having to do with the structures associated with activity. The one comes to mind would be the tendon inserting onto that bone, coming from the muscle involved with that activity.
Muscles involved with greater then common activities tend to develop greater resting tone which means that they not fully relax during non-activity time. This condition sends signals of abnormality to the tendon, more so to the point of insertion on the bone where sense organs are located, and cause a condition that is remarkably similar to inflammation.
The condition therefore will respond to anti-inflammatories but the cure lies in undoing the abnormal increase in tone. stretching is the answer. As the Achilles tendon comprises tendon tissue from multiple muscles, some which originate above the knee joint and some from below, stretching will have to be done in one of two ways, depending which muscle is the culprit or will have to be done in two ways (two different stretches) so as to get the right muscle without knowing which one(s) are involved: stretch the calf with the knee bent and stretch the calf with the knee straight. Hanging the heel of the sidewalk while supporting oneself on the lamppost is probably the easier thing to do but one could always go see a xyzpractor who'll take your money and might not get it right.
More elaborate workout of this idea can be found on a knol posted in google knol http://knol.google.com/k/bert-van-wijck/pain/1mbtdoacyaukm/2?locale=en#
Thank Ewe wannabe.
This is extremely useful and seems very appropriate. My determination is focused on going on the treadmill 6 days a week and has been like that since June. The points you make seems extremely relevant to my condition.
Many Thanks..great info.