Naked Science Forum

Life Sciences => Physiology & Medicine => Topic started by: chimera on 05/05/2005 18:24:12

Title: Cause of grey hair
Post by: chimera on 05/05/2005 18:24:12
Can anyone explain why hair goes grey? Heard the most fantastic explanations, none of which really convinced me. Would really like to hear what's known about it.

(Yes I'm greying, but that's been going on for ages now, my brother has even darker hair and he started when he was in his early twenties...) [:I]
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: rosy on 05/05/2005 18:42:21
What makes hair coloured is the production of melanin by cells in the follicle. When these pack up and stop working the hair goes white. Why this is, I have no idea... melanin producing cells do just seem to do wierd stuff (like causing liver spots on older people's skin, and indeed freckles).
It does seem to be genetic. I started noticing white hairs on my own head when I was 18 or 19... but I can't say I was much surprised as my Dad's hair's been mostly grey since I was old enough to take notice, which I guess would have been when he was 30 or so.
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: neilep on 05/05/2005 19:39:53
I usually colour mine or shave it off....yesterday I decided to have a no hair today and shaved it off !!..going to save a lot of money by not needing shampoo (https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Finstagiber.net%2Fsmiliesdotcom%2Fcontrib%2Ficw%2F003.gif&hash=f326f525e3f6c60d4ea3ecbb24d1df2a)

Men are the same as women.... just inside out !!(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.world-of-smilies.com%2Fhtml%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Fmini%2Fmini018.gif&hash=43d4f680fb1e52aecb14b539cb9eba2c)
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: ptanyuh on 19/05/2005 01:25:12
Hullo.  I read the explanation about the lack of melanin causing hair to go grey, but does this happen while the hair is first growing or can it cause an already grown hair to turn grey? I ask this because I have very long hair and I've noticed just over the past year that I have a few white hairs - Very long white hairs.  I think it's impossible that I wouldn't have noticed them over the five years it took for them to get that long.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: daveshorts on 20/05/2005 15:02:58
White hairs are quite different to the coloured ones as they tend to be coarser as well (no idea why) so I don't think they they can bleach themselves once they have grown - I think you have just not noticed.
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: memasa on 07/06/2005 16:47:28
quote:
Originally posted by daveshorts

White hairs are quite different to the coloured ones as they tend to be coarser as well (no idea why) so I don't think they they can bleach themselves once they have grown - I think you have just not noticed.



I disagree. In 1996 when I was only 17 I was in a huge back surgery. I was in very much pain and under very much stress. I even spent a couple of days in intensive care (24 hours surveillance).
Consequently, one of my eyebrows had turned grey.
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: memasa on 07/06/2005 16:54:34
...And genetics is not an explanation in my case. My grandpa, for example, hardly had any grey hair when he was already 80 years old. And I'm sure, he didn't dye his hair. :)
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: memasa on 08/06/2005 13:18:08
"Theory" #2:

It may be that I didn't have the eyebrow before I was hospitalized, so it may have grown while I was in the hospital.
If that was the case, one can also assume that it grew grey right from the start. Anyways, it was the heavy stress that, for some reason, caused it to become grey, I think.

Is this generally applicable?
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: memasa on 08/06/2005 14:12:04
Or more accurately: does mental stress decrease the production of melanin?
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: qazibasit on 09/06/2005 10:26:40
well chimera same is the case with me if you got any solution except dyeing plz inform me.
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: memasa on 09/06/2005 12:09:08
Well, if there's no one else to answer my question I'll find the answer myself.. Hmmph.

I googled "melanin" + "stress", and found the following adress: http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/apr2001/987553154.Me.r.html.

But the short answer to my question is "yes" as you'll see from the article. Stress can cause your hair to turn grey.
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: Andrew K Fletcher on 09/06/2005 20:37:11
I have a friend who had his kneecap kicked off in a game of soccer, his beard went white in the space of a few weeks, so I guess shock / pain can play a significant part.

Also, posture plays a part, check out the silver back gorilla, whose weight causes the spine to curve in the middle due to the huge amount of bulk he has to carry while on all fours. http://www.kilimanjaro.com/gorilla/goripict.htm

I believe this postural compromising of the circulation in the skin results in a reduction of pigment in the hair.

Next, the chimp that stood upright, had a marked change in the location of hair after walking upright http://www.dvmx.com/oliver.html Note, the change in location of the hair in relation to the upright posture of this ape.

Andrew

"The explanation requiring the fewest assumptions is most likely to be correct."
K.I.S. "Keep it simple!"
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: lizauko on 09/08/2005 13:39:26
wait a minute..tis simple...stress!thats is the closest science can get to explaining it!
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: lizauko on 09/08/2005 13:42:10
quote:
Originally posted by rosy

What makes hair coloured is the production of melanin by cells in the follicle. When these pack up and stop working the hair goes white. Why this is, I have no idea... melanin producing cells do just seem to do wierd stuff (like causing liver spots on older people's skin, and indeed freckles).
It does seem to be genetic. I started noticing white hairs on my own head when I was 18 or 19... but I can't say I was much surprised as my Dad's hair's been mostly grey since I was old enough to take notice, which I guess would have been when he was 30 or so.



good one...maybe there is a connection between the production of melanin and the stress levels in humans[?]
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: lizauko on 09/08/2005 13:44:35
quote:
Originally posted by rosy

What makes hair coloured is the production of melanin by cells in the follicle. When these pack up and stop working the hair goes white. Why this is, I have no idea... melanin producing cells do just seem to do wierd stuff (like causing liver spots on older people's skin, and indeed freckles).
It does seem to be genetic. I started noticing white hairs on my own head when I was 18 or 19... but I can't say I was much surprised as my Dad's hair's been mostly grey since I was old enough to take notice, which I guess would have been when he was 30 or so.



also if you have an idea on how to prevent hair from falling pliz help me[V]
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: shodashi on 12/09/2005 13:01:45
It depends on the age of a person. I also had a greying problem at the age of 19 when some streaks of white hair appeared. I asked my mother to prepare hibiscus oil and started applying it. Only, now at the age of 46, I have started greying more i.e about a sixty of my hair. Hibiscus oil can be prepared in the fallowing manner: take around 200 flowers of hibiscus rosasinesis, remove the calyx, boil them in four litre of water and squeeze them when cool. Remove the pulp, mix a litre of gingelly oil with the hibiscus decoction and heat the mixture in a low fire till the water evoporates and only the oil part remains. Use the oil as a hair oil and see how a twenty year old never gets any further grey  hairs than he got  after using it till he turns 40 or 46 like me.

Helping people to realize their souls/ spirits, meditate by teaching them meditation free of cost
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: hairie on 14/12/2005 16:50:46
does stress can cause grey hair? Because I used to have grey hair this lately. It is so weird for a girl at my age to have grey hair! My mom said I ate too much instant food but I thought I have stop eating it since this year. I have heard my bestfriend said that stress can also be the cause to grey hair because she too, has grey hair. And I'm so stress this november and december. Can stress be cause?
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: Solvay_1927 on 14/12/2005 23:43:20
Worrying is definitely a cause of greying hair.

I had jet black hair when I was younger, but I started going grey in my early 30s.  I think it was because I spent so much time worrying about whether my hair was going to go grey or not. [:D]

I remember when it started getting noticeable, I asked the missus: "Has my hair turned grey?"  She said "No, you've just got that sophisticated salt-and-pepper look."  So I said "Thanks, I'll take that as a condiment". [:o)]
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: ukmicky on 15/12/2005 00:21:05
paul i thought you were young, like early twenties. [:)]

Michael                                      (https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi11.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa186%2Fukmicky%2Fcopchase_e0.gif&hash=56c0428d4c98f5556733c055512adf32)
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: Solvay_1927 on 15/12/2005 00:29:42
quote:
paul i thought you were young, like early twenties.



WHY??


I've looked up an old entry - I think my posting on this link tells you all you need to know:
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2786
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: ukmicky on 15/12/2005 00:43:36
o'yeah. I should have remembered that,my memory is not as good as it was. (I'm getting old).



Michael                                      (https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi11.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa186%2Fukmicky%2Fwallbash.gif&hash=7fbfae96ee4eb666ba3ec22832e5a81f)
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: Solvay_1927 on 15/12/2005 23:47:02
Michael - I like your new signature - I can identify with that animation!

How do you put animated cartoons into a signature? Is it via a URL or something?
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: ukmicky on 16/12/2005 02:24:21
hi paul
Its the same as posting an image. upload it to a site like photobucket, then edit your profile and place the url that you get between the [ img] [/ img]tags in the signature box

Michael                                      (https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi11.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa186%2Fukmicky%2Fwallbash.gif&hash=7fbfae96ee4eb666ba3ec22832e5a81f)
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: DoctorBeaver on 16/12/2005 15:27:35
It is a well-established fact that teenage progeny cause grey hair on parents' heads [|)]
Title: Re: Cause of grey hair
Post by: another_someone on 19/12/2005 21:55:09
My understanding was that grey hair is less likely to fall out, hence, when you go grey overnight it is because all your coloured hair has fallen out, while your grey hair is all that remains.
Title: Cause of grey hair
Post by: effa1001 on 30/09/2007 10:12:48
 [???]

Hi What do you people think about this? [size=07pt]****************[/size] It claims can restore color to the gray hair.

 [O8)]

[size=08pt]I have removed your link. You are welcome to participate in the forum without advertising please.[/size]
Title: Cause of grey hair
Post by: Chensm on 06/05/2008 08:45:51
Cause Of  (White) Grey Hair

1. Genetic Traits :  Happen during growing age, between 18-25 years old.

2. Stress : Those are between 28 to 38 years old ,mostly suffered from insomnia, stress , emotional unstable as this exerts a negative influence on the hair, it reduce the production of melanin.           

3. Nutrition Imbalance : Unhealthy eating habit,  Weight-loss diet (false  implementation) or unhealthy life style decrease the production of melanin. 

4. Poor Blood Circulation : Unhealthy blood cells, kidneys & bone marrow disorder will increase greying of hairs. 

5. Chemicals Ingredients :  Harmful or harsh chemicals damage the papilla to decrease the quantity of melanin.  Any chemicals which harmful to papilla or melanin will increase greying too!.

 6.  Organs Disorder  :  Any skin disorder or lacking melanin and others similar disease  should consult by skin specialist or doctor.   

7.  Aging :  As we growing up to 65 years old & above, our metabolism become lower causes greying.

8. Medication : Those who have long term medication may occurred side effects which causes greying hairs and hair droppings.

Title: Cause of grey hair
Post by: Make it Lady on 06/05/2008 21:44:33
children!!!!
Title: Cause of grey hair
Post by: danwheblemedia on 14/06/2011 23:44:02
Hi Chimera,
There are a number of causes why hair colour goes grey.  It is mainly down to age.  As we get older the pigment cells in the follicle start to produce less pigment.  The pigment is what makes the hair colour the colour it is.  A number of things can turn hair colors prematurely.  This can be down to stress, smoking, drugs, alcohol and a poor diet.  Improve these factors and it’s less likely your hair will grey earlier.

For people with blonde hair it’s easy hiding those grey hairs with a grey hair treatment.  Highlighting hair is usually the best option for blondes to hide their greys.   For people with darker hair it’s much more difficult to hide.  I found this site useful for my grey hair dye: spam deleted

Thanks for your time