The Naked Scientists
Toggle navigation
Login
Register
Podcasts
The Naked Scientists
eLife
Naked Genetics
Naked Astronomy
In short
Naked Neuroscience
Ask! The Naked Scientists
Question of the Week
Archive
Video
SUBSCRIBE to our Podcasts
Articles
Science News
Features
Interviews
Answers to Science Questions
Get Naked
Donate
Do an Experiment
Science Forum
Ask a Question
About
Meet the team
Our Sponsors
Site Map
Contact us
User menu
Login
Register
Search
Home
Help
Search
Tags
Member Map
Recent Topics
Login
Register
Naked Science Forum
On the Lighter Side
New Theories
Energy generation with seesaw system
« previous
next »
Print
Pages:
1
[
2
]
Go Down
Energy generation with seesaw system
26 Replies
8296 Views
0 Tags
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
vikram_gupta11
(OP)
Jr. Member
35
Activity:
0%
Re: Energy generation with seesaw system
«
Reply #20 on:
08/10/2016 03:39:20 »
Dear Sir,
it is clear that you have not understood this concept and there is as much difference between your example of mounted turbine on car and my design as earth and sky.
we are giving more input in this design and I'm not denying about it but this input will be equally distributed or there is no need of 10 time more force to shake the these 10 flashlights.
The design is simple and there is nothing complex to understand the design .suppose there is a BEAM which is in equilibrium position and 10 no. coil+magnet system or (flashlights) permanently attached on it horizontally and we are turning this seesaw side by side towards 2 to 3 centimeter.you can imagine its function very easily.
To turn a 4 kilogram (including mass of flashlights) balanced seesaw in 3 centimeter(thrice a second) there is need of only .36 newton force ,there fore I say that mass is not a big issue in this design even we can reduce it upto 50%more but the main issue is sliding of magnet to move pass the coil. suppose a coil+ magnets system require 10 watt to shake so that it could counter the Lenz's law then this 10 watt + .36 watt(newton)+ .50(watt) = 11 watt will be sufficient to shake all 10 no. flashlights or coil+magnet system.if a coil +magnet system 's output is only 5 watt then we can get 50 watt out put with these total 10 no. coil+ magnet systems and input will be only 11 watt.That's what I want to say.
furthermore if we replace coil+magnets with 10 people then these ten people will move or turn when we will shake or turn the arm of seesaw.
when this 11 watt force will applied on the arm of seesaw then every coil+magnet system will work as this 11 watt will be equally distribute in all these coil+magnet system.
if mass is equal then F=a and its mean that the force applied on seesaw will be distributed equally or in other words all flashlights will be accelerated equally.Thus each flashlight will generate energy and output will be greater than input.
REMEMBER WE ARE TURNING THE SEESAW OR APPLYING FORCE ON SEESAW AND THIS SEESAW WILL WORK TO SHAKE THESE TEN FLASHLIGHTS OR COIL+MAGNET SYSTEM.
IF A OBJECT IS IN STATIONARY POSITION THEN THE MOVEMENT WILL DEPEND ON THE FORCE THAT HOW MUCH FORCE WE ARE APPLYING ON IT .IT WILL MOVE SLOWLY IF WE APPLY LOW FORCE AND WILL MOVE FASTLY IF WE APPLY FORCE VIGOROUSLY ON IT
Logged
RD
Naked Science Forum GOD!
9094
Activity:
0%
Thanked: 163 times
Re: Energy generation with seesaw system
«
Reply #21 on:
08/10/2016 08:25:11 »
Machines, like levers & pulleys, can multiply
force
, but cannot multiply
energy
.
Electric circuits, like transformers, can multiply
voltage
, but cannot multiply
energy
.
No machine, no circuit, no device, can multiply/make/generate energy,
ever
.
«
Last Edit: 08/10/2016 08:27:28 by RD
»
Logged
vikram_gupta11
(OP)
Jr. Member
35
Activity:
0%
Re: Energy generation with seesaw system
«
Reply #22 on:
08/10/2016 12:28:57 »
I also have consulted with a physicist and first he also denied that this device will not work but when he understood it he is Answerless.
so I say that the input is equally distributing in this device and it will work.
Logged
Colin2B
Global Moderator
Naked Science Forum King!
6479
Activity:
0%
Thanked: 706 times
Re: Energy generation with seesaw system
«
Reply #23 on:
09/10/2016 08:47:39 »
Ask the physicist to come onto this forum and explain why he is answerless. We would be interested to understand his reasoning.
Logged
and the misguided shall lead the gullible,
the feebleminded have inherited the earth.
vikram_gupta11
(OP)
Jr. Member
35
Activity:
0%
Re: Energy generation with seesaw system
«
Reply #24 on:
10/10/2016 14:54:48 »
Dear Sir,
you are right that this system will work to multiply the force but suppose input power is 10+watt(11watt) and all 10 NUMBERED flashlights are shaking with equal power input as in this system force is multiplying but remember that energy will be generated with flashlights not with seesaw arm and each flashlights has a SEPARATE CIRCUIT so each flashlight will be produced 5 watt output and all over output will be 50 watt. The seesaw arm will work only to distribute equal amount of input in each flashlight but each flashlight has a separate circuit so it will generate separate energy OTHERWISE WHATS THE BENEFIT OF TAKING SEESAW SYSTEM?
EQUAL INPUT BUT GENERATE OUTPUT SEPARATELY.
my earnest request to you that please reconsider about it.
vikram
Logged
chiralSPO
Global Moderator
Naked Science Forum King!
3738
Activity:
0.5%
Thanked: 528 times
Re: Energy generation with seesaw system
«
Reply #25 on:
10/10/2016 22:26:49 »
If we increased the number of flashlights from 10 to 100, would you predict the the power output increase 10 times? What if there were 1000 flashlights or 1000000000000 flashlights?
Shaking one of these flashlights doesn't generate energy--it merely converts mechanical energy into electrical energy (and then into light energy). As the flashlights shine, they exert a force that slows down the seesaw (or whatever shaker is used). The magnet is harder to move through the flashlight than one would expect due to its mass alone, because it transfers mechanical energy to the coil. To see an exaggerated example watch this vid: https:/ /www.youtube.com/watch?v=E97CYWlALEs (minus the space between / and /)
Logged
vikram_gupta11
(OP)
Jr. Member
35
Activity:
0%
Re: Energy generation with seesaw system
«
Reply #26 on:
11/10/2016 08:54:19 »
Dear Sir,
I have already mentioned about it if you have carefully read this topic
can you consult with a Cambridge University physicist to understand it that what I want to say?
Please my earnest request to you.
Vikram
Logged
Print
Pages:
1
[
2
]
Go Up
« previous
next »
Tags:
There was an error while thanking
Thanking...