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Non Life Sciences => Chemistry => Topic started by: ukmicky on 19/07/2006 00:44:14

Title: electrons
Post by: ukmicky on 19/07/2006 00:44:14
JUST WONDERING

if you remove an electron from an atom what happens to the element does a proton disapear as well changing the element into another,and if so how easy is it to strip the electrons from an atom.

It cant be that easy to change one element into another surely
Michael
Title: Re: electrons
Post by: neilep on 19/07/2006 03:09:19
As a firm believer in empirical study I will try to coax an electron to leave an atom with a drawing of a really sexy Hydrogen Atom.

I will relay the results here should my experiment be a success !

Men are the same as women, just inside out !
Title: Re: electrons
Post by: another_someone on 19/07/2006 04:30:03
If you remove an electron from an atom, you get an ion – without this, you would not have chemistry.  All chemistry is about electrons being shifted from one atom to another, making one a positive ion, and the other a negative (or else, in organic chemistry, the electrons tend to get shared between atoms).

In the extreme measure, if you strip an atom of all its electrons, you have plasma.

The only way one normally converts a proton to a neutron is with the emission of a positron (to take away the positive charge of the proton).  That happens as part of certain processes of radioactive decay of nuclei.



George
Title: Re: electrons
Post by: ukmicky on 20/07/2006 01:37:55
Hi george as an atom is balanced and comprised of an equal number of  (-)electrons and (+) protons to keep the balance  if you remove an electron through ionization what happens to its proton counterpart,if its lost from the nucleus how ,what happens to the proton
.

Michael
Title: Re: electrons
Post by: another_someone on 20/07/2006 03:33:39
Atoms, if they are isolated, are usually balanced.  In the real world atoms are more often part of molecules or inorganic compounds, and so will not necessarily be balanced in their own right, but rather the overall collection of atoms that form the compound or molecule is balanced in total.

There is nothing that says that the nucleus of an atom must be balanced by an equal number of electrons, it is simply that the protons are attractive to any free floating electrons (assuming there is nothing more attractive for those electrons to hook on to), so it naturally comes about that they will balance out.  If the electrons are not there, it will not cause the nucleus to become unstable in any way, it just makes it very electrically attractive (or repulsive) to other electrically charged things around it.



George
Title: Re: electrons
Post by: ukmicky on 20/07/2006 20:26:07
cheers mate

Michael
Title: Re: electrons
Post by: neilep on 20/07/2006 20:35:16
quote:
Originally posted by ukmicky

cheers mate

Michael




errrhmm !!!!

Men are the same as women, just inside out !
Title: Re: electrons
Post by: ukmicky on 20/07/2006 21:16:38
Sorry Neil but your study has failed to yield any results as of yet and until such a time that it does u can errrhmm !!!! all you like.[:D]




Michael

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