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The old-new revived aether theory in physics is on its way to dethrone the materialist standard model of quantum field theory : see this on the subject : New emprical experiments have proved the existence of aether : there is thus no empty space : aether is like a light-conductor fluid : ... Secrets of the Aether by David W. Thomson.
PEAR itself acknowledged the fact that it is extremely difficult to replicate some specific experiments of theirs , because of their almost impossible to quantify subjective information part ,since the subjective and the objective are inseparable .
Gee, for something that can't be done or doesn't exist, scientists seem to be making rather good progress with it.
If consciousness has a role in shaping events, we need to explain why the double-slit experiment gives the same result regardless of who makes the observation or how they do it. The only explanation can be that every observer's consciousness is the same, so either every person, strip of film, photomultiplier, and electron cascade amplifier shares the same consciousness, or consciousness is invariant between material objects and all-pervasive, which rather suggests that it is of material origin and by no means an emergent property of anything.
Frankly, I prefer the suggestion that "self-interference" happens, whether anyone observes it or not.
IV- How can you quantify the subjective information of memory , consciousness ...? since materialism assumes that they are encoded in or computed by the brain .
Consciousness , the mind and their related memories are non-physical processes+ non-local , and hence they are neither in the brain nor are they the product of brain activity :
alancalverd, dlorde : I- What do you think about that PDF regarding the eather theory in physics ? : Is it based on solid physics and maths or not ? You can get that PDF for free through the above displayed links
Quote from: DonQuichotte on 02/11/2014 18:33:07alancalverd, dlorde : I- What do you think about that PDF regarding the eather theory in physics ? : Is it based on solid physics and maths or not ? You can get that PDF for free through the above displayed linksI speed-read the document, and though I can't comment on the quality of the mathematical physics (not my forte), they claim testability only through a couple of simple tests of magnetic properties, which may make it falsifiable. Nevertheless, proof of the pudding will come in the eating - if it really does a better job than the Standard Model, it's different enough that it should be fairly obvious (although I don't see it, and nor, apparently do most other people actually working in the field). The suggestion of infinite free energy being available doesn't inspire confidence [)].However, the discussion section on 'Ontological Foundation' (pp.27-28) is ful of misleading and apparent misunderstandings of current theory, and the 'Philosophy' section covering Orgonomy, Health & Healing, Form & Beauty (e.g. geometric numerology [)]), God (Universal Mind of God []), Consciousness, Truth, War & Peace, etc., is so full of dippy mystic woo, that I have very little confidence that the physics of this aether theory is likely to be sound. A solid theory doesn't need a smokescreen of distracting nonsense. I'll be convinced when they verifiably out-predict the current model, or when I see an aether physics free energy generator running over-unity.Other than that, it was a waste of five minutes of life I'll never get back. Thanks.
alancalverd, dlorde : I- What do you think about that PDF regarding the eather theory in physics ? : Is it based on solid physics and maths or not ? You can get that PDF for free through the above displayed links .
...... consciousness that's a key component or a key "building block " of the universe .
Quote from: DonQuichotte on 03/11/2014 18:42:05...... consciousness that's a key component or a key "building block " of the universe . An assertion that has no foundation or demonstration, other than as a deliberate misinterpretation of "observation" in some oversimplistic descriptions of quantum mechanics and indeterminacy.
Quote from: DonQuichotte on 02/11/2014 18:33:07alancalverd, dlorde : I- What do you think about that PDF regarding the eather theory in physics ? : Is it based on solid physics and maths or not ? You can get that PDF for free through the above displayed links .As you have read it, and I have a business to run and a life to lead, perhaps you can tell us in not more than 100 words what it explains that is not explained by any other theory, and what it testably predicts.
author=cheryl j link=topic=52526.msg443591#msg443591 date=1414966744]Quote from: DonQuichotte on 02/11/2014 18:33:07IV- How can you quantify the subjective information of memory , consciousness ...? since materialism assumes that they are encoded in or computed by the brain .You use the word subjective like it's some trump card, a barrier you are 100% certain we will never be able to cross. You are more than willing to accept any "indirect" evidence of psi - that doesn't bother you in the least - but indirect and replicable evidence of subjective experience is outlandish to you. This is despite the fact that we've already made considerable progress. A mere 50-60 years ago, Behaviorists said most of mental activity couldn't be studied, because it couldn't be observed or measured - only behavior was suitable subject matter for science. That has changed with neuro-imaging and ingenious study designs, like those of Ramachandran's, who proved that subjective experiences like synesthesia were real sensory phenomena. We are starting to decode the language of neurons. We can reconstruct the visual images of things a person is looking at with surprising accuracy. All of this was once considered an impossibility because it was "subjective" internal human experience. And the technology just keeps getting better and better.
Consciousness , the mind and their related memories are non-physical processes+ non-local , and hence they are neither in the brain nor are they the product of brain activity : QuoteWell, that's your theory, but not most scientist's. Tell me how this non local, immaterial consciousness interfaces with matter. Tell me what field or particle carries the information in your consciousness or immortal soul from place to place. If you are proposing something like this, as Carroll pointed out in his lecture, you are not simply "adding" something extra to what is already known about physics - the standard model would actually have to be wrong, almost all of it, and there's just too much evidence that it's not. Which is not to say that someone is not free to chuck science completely out the window and believe whatever he likes. But you can't hedge your bets anymore, and say okay, physics is right about certain things but there's still room for souls, and telekinesis -I can make machines generate certain numbers with my thoughts,and see into the future, and read minds, etc. No, you can't, and dark matter and aether will not help you do it.
See this : they say that the maths in that book are correct , and that the physics is not only consistent with the standard model, but also presents a paradigm shift :
Regarding the link below : when you get redirected to it , just go to the left side and click on the secrets of the aether...
IV- How can you quantify the subjective information of memory , consciousness ...?...How can one quantify the subjective information ?