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Non Life Sciences => Geology, Palaeontology & Archaeology => Topic started by: tony6789 on 27/02/2006 14:30:35
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Ok check it out. I was watching nationalgeo and they were talking about the b-triangle. They brought up the subject of the lost city of Atlantis. They have it as a possibility of being buried there(if it exists). They found this man-made wall thingy down there too. THey say as the legend goes that the atlantiens had a sort of light crysal that was made up of something like magnetite. They hypothisize that if Atlantis be real then these magnetism-holding crysals are responsible for all the mysterious plane crashes and boat sinkings. I guess the logical explanation is that the sinkings were caused by pirates, mechanical failure, or natural disasers. But that doesn't rule out the Atlantis theory. What do you think?
- Big T
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a lot off these disappearances are being attributed to the release of methane hydrates from the sea floor,they cause the sea to boil,ships to sink, and planes to fall out the sky,to see them is awesome,the sea often catches fire.
its the drugs,y-know.
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There was a program on TV about that squadron of USAF planes that disappeared there. Their conclusion was that the leader lost his bearings & mistook the land beneath them for Florida when it was actually only a big island. They were flying through cloud & only caught a glimpse of the land below. So instead of flying north east across Florida, they were actually heading out into the Atlantic & simply ran out of fuel.
But I've also heard of those gas bubbles. I saw a computer simulation of what it would be like. Jeez, it was scary!
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Originally posted by DoctorBeaver
But I've also heard of those gas bubbles. I saw a computer simulation of what it would be like. Jeez, it was scary!
The interesting thing is that, if the greenhouse gas theory, even without human involvement, is of any significance; then these could have a major impact on on climate, as the methane hydrates will become less stable as they get warmer, and the methane released into the atmosphere from them is considered a more potent greenhouse gas than CO2. Thus, as I understand it, these gas releases should be getting ever more frequent, Can't say I've heard about any change in frequency of gas release.
George
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The heating up of the earth by a few degree due to the HUGE lava flows in Siberia and consequent are postulated to have cause the methane hydrate to be liberate. Thuis supposedly caused the Permian Extinsion and is probably the most feasable I have heard of to date. It doesn't take much from what I can glean. Only 3-4 degree rise and oxygen levels fall dramatically. This is confirmend by sedimentary rock geochemistry.
If I only had a little humility, I'd be perfect.
----Ted Turner
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Originally posted by tony6789
Ok check it out. I was watching nationalgeo and they were talking about the b-triangle. They brought up the subject of the lost city of Atlantis. They have it as a possibility of being buried there(if it exists). They found this man-made wall thingy down there too.
NatGeo unfortunately gives air time to legends and myths. First of all the Bermuda Triangle is not at all unusual for at sea disappearances. The Gulf of Alaska is way ahead. The seas of North Carolina and Virginia have a great number of wrecks. The Bermuda Triangle has been far over hyped.
There is no evidence of a lost city there. The so called man-made stone blocks have been explained by geologists as natural cracks in stone. This is seen in the South Pacific and areas of the Mediterranean.
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They say as the legend goes that the atlantiens had a sort of light crysal that was made up of something like magnetite. They hypothisize that if Atlantis be real then these magnetism-holding crysals are responsible for all the mysterious plane crashes and boat sinkings. I guess the logical explanation is that the sinkings were caused by pirates, mechanical failure, or natural disasers. But that doesn't rule out the Atlantis theory. What do you think?
- Big T
The Atlantis story is not a Theory, it is a legend. It may reflect an actual island named Santorini in the Aegean Sea which is now a huge atoll of an old Volcano. The explosion of Thera occurred in early second millennium BC. It was in the region of a prosperous civilisation. The devastation and the influx of survivors would have left an impression on the Greeks. Perhaps its name was Atlantis and more likely ancient Achaeans or a people preceding the Achaeans lived there.
One interesting aspect is the Biblical Story in Exodus of Moses leading his people east from the Nile Delta toward the Red Sea or Sea of Reeds. The Bible says Moses followed a column of Smoke by day and a tower of flame at night which could have been a massive volcanic eruption lasting a couple of days, perhaps followed by Earth Quakes. The Bible says that the pursuing Egyptians were thrown into confusion by blinding dust. That delayed their pursuit.
Then as one might expect in that volatile tectonic area, a huge quake was triggered by the volcanic burst, along the Aegean fault, possibly extending down into Egypt. So Moses gets to the Red sea and waits. Then the water recedes to the south exposing the sea bed of the Red Sea of Sea of Reeds. It must have seemed like a miracle. So Moses quickly got the Jews across the mud flats in a hurry before God changed his mind. Once across, the huge Tsunami perhaps 30 metres high or more swept north into the Red Sea...just as the Pharaoh and his Army were half-way across the mud flats. The Exodus story may have been somewhere between 1500 and 1800 BC. Read Exodus Chapters 14-15. It may be one of the earliest reports of Tectonic catastrophe with for Moses was bloody damn lucky.
And all we have is a silly legend of Atlantis for the same tectonic event.
Amergin
I was born in a nuclear furnace 13 billion years ago.
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Hi,
The Bermuda Triangle is a mystery. But a few weeks ago a friend of me told me the trueth about it.
You can read it at :
http://www.wiseorb.com/articles-review-454-T-THE_BERMUDA_TRIANGLE%2C_FACTS_WHICH_YOU_CAN%27T_FIND_IN_A_BOOK%2E.htm
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Interesting theory, but...he is the only person who would miss his family that much? And only one person was helped? hmmmm, for me, it is not enough evidence to believe that one...but I do like the story as it sounds better than anything else...
"Lo" Loretta
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popeye
The bermuda triangle is all about the natural release of methane hydrates and that story on the site is total crap and looks more to me about advertising the site's existance.
Rather than delete it straight away I will leave it for a while to see what others think.
Michael
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Hi,
The Bermuda Triangle is a mystery. But a few weeks ago a friend of me told me the trueth about it.
You can read it at :
http://www.wiseorb.com/articles-review-454-T-THE_BERMUDA_TRIANGLE%2C_FACTS_WHICH_YOU_CAN%27T_FIND_IN_A_BOOK%2E.htm
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Interesting theory, but...he is the only person who would miss his family that much? And only one person was helped? hmmmm, for me, it is not enough evidence to believe that one...but I do like the story as it sounds better than anything else...
"Lo" Loretta
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popeye
The bermuda triangle is all about the natural release of methane hydrates and that story on the site is total crap and looks more to me about advertising the site's existance.
Rather than delete it straight away I will leave it for a while to see what others think.
Michael
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i'm very interested in the legend of atlantis, as most greek legends take place in either real places or settings based on real places. the moses story is pretty nice.
i think the bermuda triangle is a bunch of hype.
no magnetic crystal found naturally would be able to sink a large boat or down an aircraft from under the ocean. most of these craft are aluminum anyway.
there is a lot of speculation about atlantis and just where it was located, if it did exist. even in finding a submerged man-made structure, who would be able to say it was atlantis?