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Title: Does Dyslexia Share A Common Manifestation Rate Amongst Different Languages ?
Post by: neilep on 28/10/2011 15:25:09
   



Dear Scholastic Educators Of Academic Klevurness,

As a sheepy I of course have fewe issuewes when it comes to the  nature of learning words and reading them...

...look here I am making a decision derived by rational logical means as to which volume of the Encyclopedia Britannica I shall now read !

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Nice eh ?



Fortunately for me I don’t have a problem with reading words but some people do and they can suffer from a form of dyslexia which encompasses a whole variety of learning-to-read conditions.


Finally...my kweschun is....Is the ratio of dyslexic sufferers echoed the world over ? ie: does it matter the structure of the language that is being learned ? …..... is the ratio of dyslexic sufferers specific to the language ?



whajafink ?





Hugs and shmishes



mwah mwah nwah




Neil
I Chose The Volume With Piccys In It
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Title: Does Dyslexia Share A Common Manifestation Rate Amongst Different Languages ?
Post by: CliffordK on 28/10/2011 20:28:23
It seems to be difficult to get a good cross-cultural comparison for Dyslexia.  I think it may be under reported in many places.

I'm seeing notes that the causes of Dyslexia may be different in English speaking countries and Chinese Speaking Countries. (http://www.chinapost.com.tw/life/discover/2008/04/08/150981/Dyslexia-different.htm)

As far as prevalence, some notes are indicating a prevalence of 10% to 20% in the USA, and perhaps half that in some other countries including Japan and Germany. 

Highly phonetic languages (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07042/760823-114.stm) (German, perhaps Italian) may be better than languages like English with cumbersome pronunciation. 

Another study (http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2004/sep/23/research.highereducation2) suggested about 5-6% of schoolchildren in English speaking countries were dyslexic, and about 1.5% in China. 

However, this one (http://www.tomspender.com/2011/03/dyslexia-in-china/) suggests as high as 10% in China compared to 10-15% in the USA, so the differences in total numbers might not be as great as one might think.

Title: Does Dyslexia Share A Common Manifestation Rate Amongst Different Languages ?
Post by: Don_1 on 29/10/2011 12:43:44
Well I hvae no truobel wiht disleck deslicks dieclek dislekseeyer,

oH  I dunno tho.
Title: Does Dyslexia Share A Common Manifestation Rate Amongst Different Languages ?
Post by: neilep on 29/10/2011 13:13:59
It seems to be difficult to get a good cross-cultural comparison for Dyslexia.  I think it may be under reported in many places.

I'm seeing notes that the causes of Dyslexia may be different in English speaking countries and Chinese Speaking Countries. (http://www.chinapost.com.tw/life/discover/2008/04/08/150981/Dyslexia-different.htm)

As far as prevalence, some notes are indicating a prevalence of 10% to 20% in the USA, and perhaps half that in some other countries including Japan and Germany. 

Highly phonetic languages (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07042/760823-114.stm) (German, perhaps Italian) may be better than languages like English with cumbersome pronunciation. 

Another study (http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2004/sep/23/research.highereducation2) suggested about 5-6% of schoolchildren in English speaking countries were dyslexic, and about 1.5% in China. 

However, this one (http://www.tomspender.com/2011/03/dyslexia-in-china/) suggests as high as 10% in China compared to 10-15% in the USA, so the differences in total numbers might not be as great as one might think.



Thank ewe very much Clifford for the wonderful info and excellent research ! So, in some cases the language involved does seem to have an effect on the level of dyslexia but then there seems to be some ambiguity !...I wonder if a very dyslexic person in one language may not be dyslexic in another ! ?
Title: Does Dyslexia Share A Common Manifestation Rate Amongst Different Languages ?
Post by: neilep on 29/10/2011 13:14:41
Well I hvae no truobel wiht disleck deslicks dieclek dislekseeyer,

oH  I dunno tho.


 [;D]ool...erhmm..loo....AH..lol !
Title: Does Dyslexia Share A Common Manifestation Rate Amongst Different Languages ?
Post by: CliffordK on 29/10/2011 21:10:23
Thank ewe very much Clifford for the wonderful info and excellent research ! So, in some cases the language involved does seem to have an effect on the level of dyslexia but then there seems to be some ambiguity !...I wonder if a very dyslexic person in one language may not be dyslexic in another ! ?

Excellent Question.

Certainly as one learns a second language, one reaches a point where one starts thinking in the second language, and there certainly is some independence between the two languages and tasks.

There are a few studies on dyslexia and bilingualism.This study (http://igitur-archive.library.uu.nl/student-theses/2007-1211-200206/MA%20Thesis%20Linguistics-Assessment%20of%20Dyslexia%20in%20Bilinguals.doc) seemed to indicate a deficit on phoneme tasks that crosses the bilingual boundary.   

Some people question whether just being bilingual also creates an extra level of confusion.  I have reached a point where I confound Spanish and Italian.

However, as noted above, if the causes of dyslexia in say English and Chinese are so different, one might expect some individuals that would be dyslexic in say English, but on in Chinese.

Title: Does Dyslexia Share A Common Manifestation Rate Amongst Different Languages ?
Post by: neilep on 30/10/2011 18:59:36
Thank ewe very much Clifford for the wonderful info and excellent research ! So, in some cases the language involved does seem to have an effect on the level of dyslexia but then there seems to be some ambiguity !...I wonder if a very dyslexic person in one language may not be dyslexic in another ! ?

Excellent Question.

Certainly as one learns a second language, one reaches a point where one starts thinking in the second language, and there certainly is some independence between the two languages and tasks.

There are a few studies on dyslexia and bilingualism.This study (http://igitur-archive.library.uu.nl/student-theses/2007-1211-200206/MA%20Thesis%20Linguistics-Assessment%20of%20Dyslexia%20in%20Bilinguals.doc) seemed to indicate a deficit on phoneme tasks that crosses the bilingual boundary.   

Some people question whether just being bilingual also creates an extra level of confusion.  I have reached a point where I confound Spanish and Italian.

However, as noted above, if the causes of dyslexia in say English and Chinese are so different, one might expect some individuals that would be dyslexic in say English, but on in Chinese.



Again thank ewe very much Clifford. Fascinating study, they do recommend that further studies be done and I agree with that. The variations are far and wide. Thanks again. Fascinating.
Title: Does Dyslexia Share A Common Manifestation Rate Amongst Different Languages ?
Post by: CliffordK on 30/10/2011 19:32:17
I was wondering.
Is dyslexia all bad...  or are there possible benefits of the condition?

I know that I am a relatively slow reader.  But, at least in college, I would only read a text once (and thus highlighting was pointless), while other students apparently would read the texts several times.  [xx(]

Could a dyslexic see more non-linear patterns that an ordinary reader could not?

For example, my favorite letter puzzle which I solved in less than a minute.  Yet, some people have an extraordinary time with it.  Certain scientific-type people seem to do best with it.  Is it possible that some forms of dyslexia could  actually make it easier to solve?

Quote
What is the next letter in the series?  (please just think of the answer, rather than posting).

FMAMJJAS


Of course, puzzles are one thing.  It is only a benefit if it aids with general problem solving in other aspects of life.
Title: Does Dyslexia Share A Common Manifestation Rate Amongst Different Languages ?
Post by: Geezer on 30/10/2011 23:21:54
my favorite letter puzzle

OK - complete the following series

ST, ND, RD, ??


Title: Does Dyslexia Share A Common Manifestation Rate Amongst Different Languages ?
Post by: Geezer on 31/10/2011 16:08:35
Would ewe like a hnit hitn hnti hint Clifford?
Title: Does Dyslexia Share A Common Manifestation Rate Amongst Different Languages ?
Post by: CliffordK on 31/10/2011 18:14:11
Would ewe like a hnit hitn hnti hint Clifford?
A hint?
About what?
To find the fourth term in your sequence?
You have to at least give me the time to read it.  :)
Title: Does Dyslexia Share A Common Manifestation Rate Amongst Different Languages ?
Post by: Geezer on 31/10/2011 20:07:10
Would ewe like a hnit hitn hnti hint Clifford?
A hint?
About what?
To find the fourth term in your sequence?
You have to at least give me the time to read it.  :)

If you need time to read it, you ain't going to get it  [;D]
Title: Does Dyslexia Share A Common Manifestation Rate Amongst Different Languages ?
Post by: CliffordK on 31/10/2011 20:54:15
[xx(]

Your sequence has far too many repeats for a simple solution.
But, I'm going to call the last element of the sequence TE.
But, perhaps that will lead us off topic into an existential debate.
Title: Does Dyslexia Share A Common Manifestation Rate Amongst Different Languages ?
Post by: Geezer on 31/10/2011 23:09:45
[xx(]

Your sequence has far too many repeats for a simple solution.
But, I'm going to call the last element of the sequence TE.
But, perhaps that will lead us off topic into an existential debate.


T right
E wrong
Title: Does Dyslexia Share A Common Manifestation Rate Amongst Different Languages ?
Post by: CliffordK on 31/10/2011 23:47:54
Clearly you have mistaken the definition of the last!!!

It must be caused by dyslexia!!!
Title: Does Dyslexia Share A Common Manifestation Rate Amongst Different Languages ?
Post by: imatfaal on 01/11/2011 11:14:55
my favorite letter puzzle

OK - complete the following series

ST, ND, RD, ??




My fourth guess would be the correct one.