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Non Life Sciences => Chemistry => Topic started by: hacim on 19/09/2007 03:43:24

Title: hydrochloric acid
Post by: hacim on 19/09/2007 03:43:24
hi i would like to make hydrochloric acid and i dont know how do to do any of this fancy talking to tell u all the truth im very new at this and i would like to start all of this stuff so can u guys start me off? plz
Title: hydrochloric acid
Post by: eric l on 19/09/2007 08:20:47
hi i would like to make hydrochloric acid
I would start by saying :  DON'T.  If you try such things at home or without supervision of someone with experience in the matter, it is way too dangerous.

If you need information on a subject you know little or nothing off, go to WIKIPEDIA (www.wikipedia.org), select English as language (that is, unless you are more familiar with one of the others) and type the subject of your search in the appropriate window in the left hand column.  It is generally faster than googling.

If you insist on making hydrochloric acid, here is a relatively safe way to produce it as a diluted solution :
Bariumsulphate is insoluble and will precipitate.  Filter that off and you have dilute hydrochloric acid (mixed with either sulphuric acid or bariumchloride).  Keep in mind that sulphuric acid and hydrochloric acid are both hazardous products.
Title: hydrochloric acid
Post by: hacim on 20/09/2007 05:56:03
well honestly i would like to make a concentrated hydrochloride acid it doesnt have to be pure though but pretty strong yes i researced all this stuff and i would like a step by step guide though before i try to just do it all myself and not guarenteed of doing it the right way
Title: hydrochloric acid
Post by: lightarrow on 20/09/2007 19:24:47
well honestly i would like to make a concentrated hydrochloride acid it doesnt have to be pure though but pretty strong yes i researced all this stuff and i would like a step by step guide though before i try to just do it all myself and not guarenteed of doing it the right way

You need this:
http://mattson.creighton.edu/History_Gas_Chemistry/Kipps.html
Then you add concentrated H2SO4 drop by drop to solid NaCl. Gas HCl will form and you have to dissolve it in water. The max concentration of HCl in water is around 30% (by weight) so the eccess will go away in air and if you don't have a hood you'll breath it (I don't advise it to you).
So, as eric I said, it's not so easy.

In the example of the link they use solid Zinc and a water solution of HCl to generate hydrogen. To make HCl, you substitute Zn with NaCl and the solution of HCl with H2SO4.
Title: hydrochloric acid
Post by: DrDick on 21/09/2007 17:48:19
Is there a particular reason you want to MAKE it?  You can buy it pretty easily at any pool supply store or hardware store under the name muriatic acid.  This is generally around 30% HCl, or about 10 M (concentrated is 37% or 12 M).

Having said that, if you're "very new at this" and consider this "fancy talking", then you may want to stay away from this material as it is very hazardous to work with.

Dick