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Einstein revived aether, call it a new aether,.."that it is impossible to think of space without aether on which light propagates.."
Please see NASA "Frame dragging of spacetime on orbit of earth".
Einstein is simply wrong.I can think of space without Aether.It is interesting to note that, as yet, no experiment has demonstrated the existence of fairies at the bottom of my garden, yet nobody says that this is due to experimental procedural problems. They simply assume it's because the fairies don't exist.No experiment has demonstrated the existence of the aether. Has it occurred to you that there might be a really simple reason for this?
IMHO, Einstein was not wrong. Although space with aether could be analytically understood in a hypothetical construt according to its assumptions (such as in Einstein theory of relativity), space without aether could not be comprehensive understood intuitively without the fundamental assumptions, therefore is unthinkable; it is just a leap of faith with the mathematical construct that accepts the "spooky action at a distance" as it is without addressing the causality.
Space is space. It's complicated enough without adding a mysterious "aether" to it.
But I agree, the aether of old and the new aether, which is one and the same, exists and can be proven, without doubt.jsaldea12
..In his later life, in a press conference in which the press asked Dr. Einstein about his GR. Dr. Einstein remarked something like this, “I cannot anymore recognized my relativity.. so many hands had dipped their fingers into it”.
I agree: Einstein is not wrong. I have to say aether of old and new aether, just to make distinction terminology, but both are one and the same: when we take out the concept that aether of old is erroneously conceived of as “luminiferous”. But the existence of aether/spacetime can be proven.
Whatever properties space (by whatever definition) has, it has those properties.Sticking a new label like "aether" on it achieves nothing and promotes confusion. Relabelling it doesn't alter those properties.
Both of us agree: Einstein is not wrong. But permit to add further: that asether exists is not a matter of faith. It can be proven by scientists like us.Jsaldea122.25.
Call that invisible substance, aether or spacetime, makes no difference, it is real.
Quote from: jsaldea12 on 26/02/2010 12:13:17Call that invisible substance, aether or spacetime, makes no difference, it is real.I think you're both arguing the same point - it's normally called spacetime, why bother calling it aether?