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On the Lighter Side => Complementary Medicine => Topic started by: Titanscape on 15/04/2004 20:19:58
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Is it true that apple cider vinegar is good for cleaning ateries of plaque? What about hydrogenated vegetable oil? Know any good recipes?
Titanscape
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I used to live in England for several years and when we needed to do an internal cleanse, apple cider vinegar or just apple cider where always on the top of the list. However, I am not so sure that it will work for your arteries and/or cholesterol.
There are several natural food nutrients on the market (the scientific research is called Glycobiology - read up on this at http://glyco.dexlen.us - info only) that will help your body get rid of toxins, as well as neutralize fat deposits, cholesterol and clogged arteries. One of my newsletter readers actually avoided a triple by-pass because of these products.
If you are looking for an overnight 'cure' there is none (at least not to my >20 year research). When you revert to holistic, alternative or natural supplements, they will take their time to work their way through your body. Eventually, and it can be several months, these product will produce a result.
Good luck and if you have a question, please email me.
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My grandfather has taken large doses of garlic pills, and apple cider vinegar with tremendous results. I don't know how high of a dose he takes with garlic, but he drinks some tea with apple cider vinegar and takes his garlic every night. At age 74 the doctor thought he was on strong medication, and when my grandfather told him what he took he was in shock.
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I am surprised this question has had so many little replies...I would be very interested in trying out the apple cider vinegar (with regard to lowering cholesterol) if a dosage could be recommended...could it also help in losing weight and getting the fat off my liver ?
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Penile
Why do you have a fatty liver? I read some stuff about apple cider vinegar and helping with cholesterol and weight loss. I tried it for weight loss without success, but then, I do come from the land of the obese.
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Apparantley I'm clinically obese arond the tummy ( I just think I'm cuddly)...but, I've had a few scans and blood tests and it's been determined that my liver is either storing too much fat ?..or has fatty deposits on it....I have to lose the weight as indications are it's inflamed.....*sigh*
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Neil - the best way to lower cholesterol is to lose weight. As weight drops, so does your cholesterol level.
Chris
"I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception"
- Groucho Marx
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But since when does just being overweight give you a fatty liver?
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Originally posted by bezoar
But since when does just being overweight give you a fatty liver?
...well..the assumption is that because my tummy is where my fat resides(and that is also in the vicinity of the liver,) that if I was to lose the weight, the fatty mass will also go too.....I would certainly welcome opinions though...........and waves of willpower...
Neil (liver 'n' bacon fan...hmmmmm[:D])
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Last I knew, obesity does not = fatty liver. Chris???????
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I've heard that garlic can also help reducing colesterol and loose weight!
I'm only worryed about the breath after eating garlic.
Do you know any solition for this problem.
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Originally posted by John
I've heard that garlic can also help reducing colesterol and loose weight!
I'm only worryed about the breath after eating garlic.
Do you know any solition for this problem.
Hi John,
I did in fact post this as an answer to your same query in the other thread....did you not check it ?
Odourless garlic capsules are widely available in any health store/chemist/pharmacy.........I've taken them before and they're great...no garlic breath at all......don't know where you are but here's a link to a UK supplier http://www.wassen.com/nutrition-vitamins/nutritional-supplements-Garlic.htm
Neil
'Men are the same as women...just inside out !'
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I have used ACV ( Apple Cider Vinegar ) for nearly 10 years
and find it an excellent tonic.
A proven antiseptic it will see off any stomach bug.
Colitis too I shouldn't wonder.
Taken with a meal ( in water ) it aids digestion as well as any wine.
I had varicose veins appearing about 15 years ago.
These have disappeared since taking Blackstrap Mollases
( 1 Tsp ) every morning mixed with hot water and Apple Juice
( Copella or similar good quality ).
Arterial Plaque ? Never heard of Cider Vinegar as a cure. But discovered recently that Cayenne Pepper apparently is.
Do a search for 'Cayenne' on Google.
Doctors - To be avoided at all costs.
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I have used ACV ( Apple Cider Vinegar ) for nearly 10 years
and find it an excellent tonic.
A proven antiseptic it will see off any stomach bug.
Colitis too I shouldn't wonder.
Taken with a meal ( in water ) it aids digestion as well as any wine.
I had varicose veins appearing about 15 years ago.
These have disappeared since taking Blackstrap Mollases
( 1 Tsp ) every morning mixed with hot water and Apple Juice
( Copella or similar good quality ).
Arterial Plaque ? Never heard of Cider Vinegar as a cure. But discovered recently that Cayenne Pepper apparently is.
Do a search for 'Cayenne' on Google.
Doctors - To be avoided at all costs.
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Your right Neil, You are just cuddly, The sweetest little teddy bear! I think you might loose those fatty deposits with the weight and the lowered cholesterol. Cholesterol leaves deposits all through your body as I understand it. I would think they will disapate as the cholesterol goes down. I am no Doctor, but it seems plausible to me that would make the most since anyway. Seems I am late on this reply also!
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Originally posted by mikelovesgod
My grandfather has taken large doses of garlic pills, and apple cider vinegar with tremendous results.....
I take 2,000mg a day of garlic capsules and my wife says I STINK. Mind you, she said I stink stank stunk smelt dreadful even before I started taking them!
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Originally posted by John
I've heard that garlic can also help reducing colesterol and loose weight!
I'm only worryed about the breath after eating garlic.
Do you know any solition for this problem.
Yes, isolate yourself from contact with other people - then you don't have to worry about your breath anymore.
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dear neil (who ate all the pies)
when you cant pass through the patio doors,worry about your weight,or join the zetacap thread [:0][B)][:X]
http://www.armybarmy.org
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Hey Timecop! You should be arrested! I am on Zeta thread and so far there is no door I can't pass through...okay, maybe a kitchen at a restaurant..uh, I should be there dining anyways?
"Lo" Loretta
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i ended up in a 'confidential' Human Resources arbitration with my co-worker for my
offensive consumption of offensive garlic. [xx(]
[:0]
[:X] come here loverboy, i have a kissie for youuuu
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cider vinegar cures are bogus but keep drinking it if you like.
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I have been told to drink it to aid with cholesterol! I don't know that it doesn't work but don't know that it does either. My Doctor suggested it! She is into wholeistic natural herbal therapy and remedies before and with other medications.
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psophist how can we email you ? there is no email address. I have several questions. My email address is Pybiter@aol.com please contact me. PLEASE!!
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When dealing with cholesterol and CVD one may look at proper eating patterns focusing on a higher soluable content with proper combination of the proper fat ratio. Apple cider is loaded with nutrients that help with the heart. potassium is probably the most benefical compenent of apple cider along with malic acid that can help with FM. One has to be careful because too much acid will erode your enamel on your teeth leaving hello film on them. Some people may recommend drinking it through a straw to avoid this. More so the most benefit people get from ACV is the increase of acetic acid which can fuel the krebs cyle providing cellular energy.
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Neil - the best way to lower cholesterol is to lose weight. As weight drops, so does your cholesterol level.
Chris
"I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception"
- Groucho Marx
So all very thin people are cholesterol free, Yipeee....
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Apple cider vinegar might know how to lower cholesterol (http://loweringcholesterolguide.com/). According to a study by the Isfahan University of Medical Sciences and published in 2009 in "Lipids in Health and Disease," apple cider vinegar reduced the amount of LDL or bad cholesterol in the blood of rabbits. It is not yet known if these results can be duplicated in humans
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For those of us seeking scientific evidences of the effects of ACV on hypertension, here's what I found:
Kondo and colleagues[30] reported a significant reduction in systolic blood pressure (approximately 20 mm Hg) in spontaneously hypertensive (SHR) rats fed a standard laboratory diet mixed with either vinegar or an acetic acid solution (approximately 0.86 mmol acetic acid/day for 6 weeks) as compared with SHR rats fed the same diet mixed with deionized water. These observed reductions in systolic blood pressure were associated with reductions in both plasma renin activity and plasma aldosterone concentrations (35% to 40% and 15% to 25% reductions in renin activity and aldosterone concentrations, respectively, in the experimental vs control SHR rats). Others have reported that vinegar administration (approximately 0.57 mmol acetic acid, orally) inhibited the renin-angiotensin system in nonhypertensive Sprague-Dawley rats.[31]
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1785201/
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http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Apple_cider_vinegar#Dangers
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As far as I know ACV contains potassium, so it may increase your potassium levels...