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QuoteIf a stem cell knows what to do it's because of it's genetic programming - it doesn't know anything - it's just a machine.so you are extending that stem cells are not only intelligent and engineered but also programed and they do all this themselves? clever little cells, sorry machine.Do you think it correct to call stem cells a machine?How many of these machines do we each have in our bodies.If you are correct in calling them machines it might be easier for others to accept that the universe was made by a mechine and therfore your comment ads to my "Intelligent design Theory".
If a stem cell knows what to do it's because of it's genetic programming - it doesn't know anything - it's just a machine.
As I mentioned science likes to humanise a 'creator/designer' in the theory of "intelligent deign" so I suppose whether it is god and alien or a machine it does just that.Has the big bang theory been tested?
Has the theory of bacteria developing into another species that then turns into yet another species been tested?I'm not a scientist but I would love to read about such tests.
Again it is difficult for some to take out the "human GOD factor" of intelligent design. Open your mind and think of intelligent design as maybe one of those little machines that programes itself and has intelligently engineered itself to develop into whatever it wants to be, I'm talking about a stem cell of course.Maye there is somethig more to the stem cell something we have not discovered yet?
Take out the human factor, the god favtor or what ever blocks your mind to make it think that this wonderful place, just happened.
Ben V - Please tell me the person, god or other who programmed the stem cell. Is your statement above fact or theory? I dont mean to be rude I am just interested in learning.
I agree, our existence is more than we can comprehend.So therefore I think that we should not block the thoughts and suggestions that may lead to a better understanding.I believe that beside "the big bang theory" we should include "intelligent design" keeping human/god/alien and machine out of it. We all need to look much deeper.But what i am sure of is this wonderful universe being so well coordinated and self sustainable, didn't 'just happen' and until science can say without any doubt how it did happen then our own inability to test the point where our universe came into existence and establish yet another theory, should not be hindered by some trying to bring religion or other mind blocking, prejudice thoughts into the argument.
Nope - I'm not saying they are intelligent.
Nope - I'm not saying they are engineered -
Yes, I think it's reasonable to call them a machine.
has the big bang been tested?
Not directly, in as much as that is impossible - however, the theory of the big bang makes predictions based on existing observations that have since been shown to be true. It may yet be wrong, but right now it's our best model.
Well, we have seen bacteria evolving new characteristics (characteristics that take the strain away from the defining characteristics of the existing species of bacteria), all in a lab under little selection pressure. The theory of evolution also, again, makes predictions that have since been shown to be true. It's our best explanation of the diversity of life on Earth.
In essence, I agree. I agree that religion has no place in science, and I agree that the origin of the universe is a very difficult question to answer, and we may never arrive at a solution.
QuoteNope - I'm not saying they are intelligent.no you didn't a scientist working with stem cells didQuoteNope - I'm not saying they are engineered -no you didn't a scientist working with stem cells did
QuoteNope - I'm not saying they are intelligent. no you didn't a scientist working with stem cells did QuoteNope - I'm not saying they are engineered - no you didn't a scientist working with stem cells did QuoteYes, I think it's reasonable to call them a machine. on what authorityA machine that is genetically engineered to change itself! Wow.
Quotehas the big bang been tested? I askedQuoteNot directly, in as much as that is impossible - however, the theory of the big bang makes predictions based on existing observations that have since been shown to be true. It may yet be wrong, but right now it's our best model. theories based on predictions, hmm.You told me here that a theory had to be able to be tested!!!! now you are changing your mind.Is the 'Big Bang a theory or not?
QuoteWell, we have seen bacteria evolving new characteristics (characteristics that take the strain away from the defining characteristics of the existing species of bacteria), all in a lab under little selection pressure. The theory of evolution also, again, makes predictions that have since been shown to be true. It's our best explanation of the diversity of life on Earth. Are you saying that one species can evolve into another?When I go to New Zealand I begin to talk like them too. When I go to the beach I come home with a tan..........when I have the flu I develop antibodies....... forever changing, adapting or as you put it evolving, not back to an ape I hope.
I read in a science journal that humans have 89% same genetic make up as plants
QuoteIn essence, I agree. I agree that religion has no place in science, and I agree that the origin of the universe is a very difficult question to answer, and we may never arrive at a solution. so if the big bang cant be tested and it is a theory and stem cells are intelligent, engineered and a machine and can alter their appearance to create a new.
Maybe intelligent, engineered design should be a valid option as it is already proven with stem cell research
"differnet genes based on the environment" but that is what eveolution is,,,,,
but stem cell scientist said they are intelligent and engineered to develop.........so could evolution be based on intelligent engineering?
QuoteQuoteNope - I'm not saying they are intelligent.no you didn't a scientist working with stem cells didQuoteNope - I'm not saying they are engineered -no you didn't a scientist working with stem cells did QuoteWow. An actual SCIENTIST said it! That's the ultimate authority.Stephen Badylak was the personCan someone tell me about him?
Wow. An actual SCIENTIST said it! That's the ultimate authority.
and they are not engineered, but arrived at by evolution.
We really need to know who it was and what he said, as you may have misunderstood him, he may have been taken out of context, or he may have just poorly communicated what he meant. Stem cells are not thought of as intelligent, and they are not engineered, but arrived at by evolution. So no, evolution is not based on intelligent engineering.
I like the idea that if things weren't so perfect there would be nothing to observe it and therefore it wouldn't technically exist. It reminds me of quantum mechanics. Perhaps the universe, our quantum branch anyway, settled on these friendly constants because it's the only possible way it could exist and be observed. Any extreme combinations wouldn't result in anythin able to contemplate its creepiness and it would simply be a froth of possibilities.
I read a very good book today (long haul flight from canada) called "13 things that dont make sense". One topic was life and the other was death. Very very deep and clever stuff. Another topic raised was the constants of the universe.
Quoteand they are not engineered, but arrived at by evolution. you do mean the 'theory' of Evolution dont you? I wouldn't want to think that people dont say what they mean.