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Title: The New Concept AntiGravity Aircraft
Post by: dade on 11/03/2012 05:05:00

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There is two kinds of vehicle what was in generaly used by human being in the life history in the world, there is: using momentum force like animal, car, airoplane or ship: The other using centrifugal force like flying saucer.

Earth which weight predict 600 trillion ton does not fall at the Sun because of  centrifugal in orbitting, on the contrary it does not be thrown far go out the orbit line of hold by gravity at the Sun as orbit center. Gravity and centrifugal is equal called  Equillibrium, thats why until now Earth which we was inhabited always rotate and circulate the Sun. Now we justly take example : how if the gravity used  and centrifugal is negated? The Earth will float far leave the Sun. So  that centrifugal  can be used to fly far away if gravity eliminated. Finally how to eliminate gravity?

It’s way rotate  part of aircraft by horizontal. When that rotation faster centrifugal force getting greater and the gravity getting smaller, finally it lose the gravity and the aircraft start flying. Of course people would surprise: how the aircraft can keep rotate without fulcrums? Thats why we named that aircraft Shuttling System that is aircraft likes two disc adjoining attached in the midle as fulcrums:

A. The Top part, we name Positive rotate to right, and the edges is getting thicker and havier.   

B. The Buttom part, we name Negative rotating to left, and the edges is getting thicker and havier.

C. Middle Part , we name Neutral, air crew placed and also machine and everythings turning Negative and Positive at the same time.

The aircraft can liftup added with explosion from the engine. However that aircraft construction later, let the engineer doit it, and we are sure  the aircraft will bulletproof and also waterproof.

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This is the basic of AntiGravity
Spinning faster then flying higher
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Title: Re: The New Concept AntiGravity Aircraft
Post by: dade on 11/03/2012 05:09:45

People no longger need roadway and rel road which spend large of energy, money, places, things and time, object place and time.

Title: Re: The New Concept AntiGravity Aircraft
Post by: greeniemax on 11/03/2012 11:15:20

Its a good idea but problem is relativity, no I'm not going to talk about Einstein here.

When you rotate clockwise there should be something rotating anti clock wise otherwise it doesn't work, this is why helicopters have small fan on its tail so that helicopter shouldn't spin, to keep it straight, thus it pushes the air in opposite direction of rotter spinning thus to avoid the relative force in opposite direction.

If you rotate anything in air in one direction it has to to have rotation in opposite direction as well that cancels out rotation completely, you could rotate it using air but than to push through the air the craft has to move and in this situation slower you go slower you spin, overall it makes it useless.

Its a great idea for things that would stay in air for few seconds but right now we have no technology to move it in one direction and keep it moving without a counter rotation.

Title: Re: The New Concept AntiGravity Aircraft
Post by: MikeS on 12/03/2012 21:24:30

The chairs in the example you give are thrown out by centrifugal (or is it centripetal) force.  Their fulcrums are such that in being thrown out they also rise.  This has absolutely nothing to do with anti-gravity.  A rotating ring does not generate gravitational lift.

A rotating ring or cylinder can generate pseudo gravity (for the same reason as above) to keep your feet rooted firmly on the floor (the outer ring) but it cannot generate lift..

Title: Re: The New Concept AntiGravity Aircraft
Post by: greeniemax on 13/03/2012 07:04:43

Well let me put something here again,

Any rotating object would stabilize itself perpendicular to gravity, because force will travel to the sides, the same of that object will determine if its going to move up or down (in air).

This is why when you spin a top it tends to spin on its point, while actually excreting more force downward (favor of gravity).

A disc or frisbee when thrown in a rotating action would actually rotate and this rotation would equalize the mass differences on its side, thus it wouldn't tilt as much (depending on speed of rotation), the rotation will also move the centrifugal force to its sides, but its shape will keep it a float in air.

But these things will work fine in air as soon as you don't have air they would not seem like floating, they would dive, remaining stable or perpendicular to gravity they would still go down.

So sniping anything doesn't defy gravity and you can't spine anything in such a way that it would not have a counter rotation.

Title: Re: The New Concept AntiGravity Aircraft
Post by: CliffordK on 14/03/2012 12:31:07

The problem is that if you take your merry-go-round ride.

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I presume the vertical component of the weight (that pushing down on the tower) remains the same. no matter how fast it spins.  Thus, in the photo, the people are shown at a 45° angle, not straight out.

I'm not sure how you could verify it.  Perhaps you could figure out how to accurately weigh a top, or a bicycle wheel when it was spinning or not spinning.

Hmmm, thinking about the bicycle wheel when it is spinning....  which direction would be "anti-gravity"?

Title: Re: The New Concept AntiGravity Aircraft
Post by: dade on 20/03/2012 03:41:15

a bicycle wheel is different, its shaft is horizontal.
the thickness of the plate should be thicker/heavier to the edge and shaped should be oblique (angled), it can lift up, so it should form an angle from the horizontal line, it can not lift up even the edge is heavier and sping fast.