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Maybe you should rename it to multibang or something. [] Hawking would probably not recognize it.
I only mention Hawking because he has probably studied the big bang theory more than any other physicist. I see some signals from Hawking that he is distancing himself from Quantum Theory lately. He is predicting that the Higgs boson will not be found and suspects that it does not exist. I also suspect that it does not exist, but this probably won't prevent something being found and claimed to be the Higgs.As far as spirits go; I like the kind that come in liquid measurements [] I suspect that there is no special attribute to humanity that enables it to any higher standing than a fruit fly. I do puzzle over what is self awareness and wonder if it is possible that a machine might one day be endowed with it.
I do puzzle over what is self awareness and wonder if it is possible that a machine might one day be endowed with it.
"The consequences of that probability scares me to death". Sorry, I don't remember his name.
The Q/3 charges I like because it enables me to split the electron into 3 parts in the neutron. Therefore I am able to calculate the magnetic moment of the neutron easily.
Quote from: jerrygg38The Q/3 charges I like because it enables me to split the electron into 3 parts in the neutron. Therefore I am able to calculate the magnetic moment of the neutron easily.The main reason I don't like the Q/3 concept is that there is no possible way to get that charge number out of a closed loop if you consider that the fine-structure constant is the ratio of the circumference to the charge. It must be in units of electron charge when seen at any distance away that is greater than the electron's radius.Give this up and we lose the source of the nuclear forces.Edit: For example, one closed loop gives you 1/3 charge; another gives you 2/3 charge. There is no way to do that and tie in the fine structure constant as the ratio of charge to bend radius. In fact, there is no way to tie in the fine structure constant at all.And we also lose the concept of why it is that charge is quantized in units of electron charge.
I like to consider the charge of an electron as originating at the electron's circumference. Then any smaller circumference must have a correspondingly greater charge amplitude at its surface. Take the circumference down until you get the value of the strong nuclear interaction, and you have the inner shells of the proton.That is one of the ways to get to the shell sizes. Another way is the square of the shells.
I have not seen Professor Robert Hofstadter's shell concept, but I have read that he developed a shell construct for atomic nuclei at Stanford sometime around the 60's. However, his Nobel prize was not for that but for his findings that nuclear structure seemed to consist of three or four distinct entities.Tnaks for that info. My proton consists of three high energy quarks and my neutron consists of my proton plus one split electron. In my solution, the three quarks all form a common radius for the proton. The electrons form a shell at a further radius. The hydrogen atom merely has an orbiting electron similar to the Earth around the sun. However it is streched out like the rings of saturn.You need not add my name to your speculation; we all borrow ideas from elsewhere.
Quote from: Vern on 12/06/2009 15:05:12I have not seen Professor Robert Hofstadter's shell concept, but I have read that he developed a shell construct for atomic nuclei at Stanford sometime around the 60's. However, his Nobel prize was not for that but for his findings that nuclear structure seemed to consist of three or four distinct entities.You need not add my name to your speculation; we all borrow ideas from elsewhere.Tnaks for that info. My proton consists of three high energy quarks and my neutron consists of my proton plus one split electron. In my solution, the three quarks all form a common radius for the proton. The electrons form a shell at a further radius. The hydrogen atom merely has an orbiting electron similar to the Earth around the sun. However it is streched out like the rings of saturn.
I have not seen Professor Robert Hofstadter's shell concept, but I have read that he developed a shell construct for atomic nuclei at Stanford sometime around the 60's. However, his Nobel prize was not for that but for his findings that nuclear structure seemed to consist of three or four distinct entities.You need not add my name to your speculation; we all borrow ideas from elsewhere.
Quote from: jerrygg38 on 12/06/2009 15:52:44Quote from: Vern on 12/06/2009 15:05:12I fixed your quote; it is difficult to avoid putting the new message inside the quotes. []The construct you describe would probably fit the hadron spectra that Hofstadter recorded. He was able to calculate some min and max sizes for spheres that would produce the spectral results. I was happy when I found that the inner shells of my scheme fit. The outer shells were missed, but this could be caused by the low density. Are you referring to the outer shells of the Proton. I have not studied this in detail yet. I do not believe that protons will have far out shells. Protons love neutrons because it is the neutron that has the outer shell and can surround the proton. If protons had outer shells then we could get stable atoms with 2 protons, 3 protons, 4 protons, etc. The neutron would not be necessary.Thanks for fixing it. Often I think I am outside the quote but really inside it. I will try to be more careful. I looked up the Professor on the Internet and got your blog on the shells.
Quote from: Vern on 12/06/2009 15:05:12I fixed your quote; it is difficult to avoid putting the new message inside the quotes. []The construct you describe would probably fit the hadron spectra that Hofstadter recorded. He was able to calculate some min and max sizes for spheres that would produce the spectral results. I was happy when I found that the inner shells of my scheme fit. The outer shells were missed, but this could be caused by the low density.
Hofstadter's shells will google straight to my Hofstadter's Shells Revisited. You can get to the Wiki on Dr. Robert Hofstadter by using the name.