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General Discussion & Feedback => Just Chat! => Topic started by: Karen W. on 13/09/2006 15:19:56
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Is everyone having computer problems? I am wondering with all the computer problems, what is the difference in Broad Band and DSL?
Faster etc?I have a dial up, and very rarely have problems with it..although it is much slower to open pages and download...it is pretty reliable!Is it possible to install a modem in your computer for backup purposes when your brodband or dsl is down?You know so you can just use a dial up service when yours are out. I know that modems are pretty cheap as I replaced one recently and installed it myself..pretty easy!
Karen
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From what I can gather the problem appears to be with ADSL and not DSL (cable) broadband. Both George and Neil have ADSL broadband over a telephone line, that was recently upgraded. The reliability subsequently went haywire. DSL broadband, which I am using at the moment, appears to be unaffected.
Gaia xxx
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Gaia, what is the difference between ADSL AND DSLCABLE BROADBAND BEsides the cable and phone line, Do you know? WHAT is ADSL? I have never heard of it!
Karen
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Hi Karen
DSL stands for Digital Subscriber Loop. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSL.
ADSL is Asynchronous Dialer Subscriber Line, a form of DSL over telephone wires. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADSL
In regular speak, if your broadband is fibre-optic cable then it is usually DSL and is a separate line from your telephone. If your broaddband connection is ADSL then it is via your regular telephone line (copper wires), though using a different frequency from voice transmission. Dial-up will be over your regular telephone line.
The problem, I think, is that the ADSL providers in the UK are using BT telephone lines and the new upgrade facilities provided by BT to the broadband providers may not be stable. As the cable companies own their own network they have more control over the facilities.
Btw, Neil's e-mail seems to be working on and off today, but more off than on.
Gaia xxx
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Too Bad I know that can be so frustrating... They are both probably going bonkers as much as they use the computer... I know it would drive me mad!! This site is my friend I luv it here and would miss everyone terribly!! I hope they get it fixed really soon!
I was thinking of switching mine over but this little problem would drive me insane so I think I will just stay right where I am!LOL, SLOW, BUT ON LINE!
Karen
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Kaaaarrrrreeeeennnn....email me...bonkers is not a good word...hehe...sorry my friend...LOL You know I luvs ya! That will get them started
"Lo" Loretta
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WHOOPS AGAIN>>>
Karen
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LOL I know...I know...but I sure did laugh as I could imagine the eyebrows going up again...hehe
"Lo" Loretta
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I will email you later when I go home!
Karen
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Originally posted by Gaia
Hi Karen
DSL stands for Digital Subscriber Loop. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSL.
ADSL is Asynchronous Dialer Subscriber Line, a form of DSL over telephone wires. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADSL
In regular speak, if your broadband is fibre-optic cable then it is usually DSL and is a separate line from your telephone. If your broaddband connection is ADSL then it is via your regular telephone line (copper wires), though using a different frequency from voice transmission. Dial-up will be over your regular telephone line.
The problem, I think, is that the ADSL providers in the UK are using BT telephone lines and the new upgrade facilities provided by BT to the broadband providers may not be stable. As the cable companies own their own network they have more control over the facilities.
Btw, Neil's e-mail seems to be working on and off today, but more off than on.
Gaia xxx
Hi there Gaia! How is the computer issues you are having? What is new on your end? [;)]
"Lo" Loretta
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Okay, checking it in a few
"Lo" Loretta
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Thanks Gaia, I really dont understand all the cable versas anything else stuff!
Hey LO!!
Karen
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Hiya! LOL Lo is now on the go! If I don't find myself too tired after I go home and shower I will try to get back on this forum...but I have worked virtual butt off tonight...
"Lo" Loretta
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Rest well if you rest Loretta!! Love to you!
Karen
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I am going to try and you too
"Lo" Loretta
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Yep abit later as I am not tired yet!
Karen
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Originally posted by moonfire
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Originally posted by Gaia
Hi Karen
DSL stands for Digital Subscriber Loop. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSL.
ADSL is Asynchronous Dialer Subscriber Line, a form of DSL over telephone wires. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADSL
In regular speak, if your broadband is fibre-optic cable then it is usually DSL and is a separate line from your telephone. If your broaddband connection is ADSL then it is via your regular telephone line (copper wires), though using a different frequency from voice transmission. Dial-up will be over your regular telephone line.
The problem, I think, is that the ADSL providers in the UK are using BT telephone lines and the new upgrade facilities provided by BT to the broadband providers may not be stable. As the cable companies own their own network they have more control over the facilities.
Btw, Neil's e-mail seems to be working on and off today, but more off than on.
Gaia xxx
Hi there Gaia! How is the computer issues you are having? What is new on your end? [;)]
"Lo" Loretta
Cable is fine, ADSL's a stinker! Neil's e-mail seems to be working again, or it was last night.
Gaia xxx
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Off and On I think still!
Karen
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LOL Oh that is too bad for you...so when will you be fully on here again?
"Lo" Loretta
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Who are you talking to, Loretta?
Karen
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GAIA of course...darling, who else would I be talking too...(innocently batting eyes..hehe)
"Lo" Loretta
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I got lost who knows who!!LOL LOL!
Karen
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It is easy to get lost with me...hehe
"Lo" Loretta
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Yes it is!!
Karen
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Hello Mods...someone is selling cells for nokia..
"Lo" Loretta
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Hi Neil, might be worth you trying a new modem. Seems to be doing the trick (for the moment) for our favourite George (or am I just biased?). Something to do with older ones not actually being able to cope with the upgraded 8mb despite supposedly being able to!
Gaia xxx
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Originally posted by Gaia
Hi Neil, might be worth you trying a new modem. Seems to be doing the trick (for the moment) for our favourite George (or am I just biased?). Something to do with older ones not actually being able to cope with the upgraded 8mb despite supposedly being able to!
Gaia xxx
Hi Gaia,
Thanks Mam...My modem is actually less than a year old, it's a current model.
I have today received an email from Pipex and boy do they want me to try a whole load of procedures which I will reluctantly follow , but only after I have received a whole new batch of micro-filters which I really really hope will cure the problem.
Yes, it's good to see Georgy up and running with apparent stability...YAYYYYYYYYYY !!
Men are the same as women, just inside out !
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Yes, Gaia is up running again and that is important...
"Lo" Loretta
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hugs to you Neil while you are experiencing computer blues
"Lo" Loretta
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Good morning and good afternoon everyone !!
Karen
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Good Morning Karen Mam and Good morning Lo..(well..now it's afternoon for you isn't it ?)...HUGS to you too (and wandering hands also.............OK OK..me stop that..it's getting a bit naughty isn't it ?...and probably a bit repetitive eh ?)
Men are the same as women, just inside out !
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You are too sweet and very funny! What would we do here without you?How have you been Sir, Are you feeling better? Not repetitive, Predictable maybe, Funny Yes!
Karen
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Predictable ?..Oh My !!..NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!...LOL.....Well, I suppose I am in part ...but then..aren't we all ? Hey !!..sometimes I am so Unpredictable that I surprise myself....!!..and then fall back laughing and have a good old laugh and chat with myself too !!...Oh Goody goody...it's Nursey with my medicine !!!
I am well Mam, thank you for asking.....me chasey les demons away !!..shoo !!..shoo !!..shoo bee doo bee doo !!...YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!
How are you ?...I just read your diary entry !!..Oh MY !!!!!!...that was scary !!!!....Mam....thank you for still being here to tell us about it !!
How is Doggy ?....what's his name again ?...Spunky Bubbles or something ???.LOLOLOLOL !!!!
Men are the same as women, just inside out !
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Hey Sir Neil,
You having trouble with your sceptor? You double posted like me!!
I was really scared and get very scared now when home alone this past trouble has only intensified things if you know what I mean!
Be a good boy and take your meds no more sick neil... were tired of that! Abandoning us on the forum here leaving Lo and I to reak havok in the forum and driving George, Michael and Dave stark raving Nuts!LOL
Thanks for scaring away my demons, but it sounds as if you are trying to sing them a lullaby and make them stay!!Save that for sometime when I need some sleep! Yes? You are a silly Guy we all love that about you!!
He has a huge name and spunky is part of it, I had to ask son just to remember it myself, so dont ask me, I just call him spunky! Sons dog so he can call him whatever he desires!!LOLLOLIt is something spunkmire the third os something like that there is more, I don't remember!
Karen
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Bye the way He's the ankle bitter, playful as heck and cute as abutton but oooooh weee him has some sharp little teeth!
Karen
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Originally posted by Karen W.
in the forum and drive george Michael and Dave stark raving Nuts!LOL
I didn't know that George Michael was on this forum [:D]
George
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Hi Karen Mam,
Actually, I meant me chasey MY demons away !!...as you asked me how I was !!...but me also chase yours away too and replace them with furry balls with smiles and arms to hug you and tickle you to make you smile and laugh (but not laugh too much else you will do a wee wee like all girlies do when they laugh too much ) LOL!!..sorry !!! [:)]
Men are the same as women, just inside out !
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HI Sir Neil,
You are too funny! I am always misunderstanding posts! Sorry I hope all your demons go away now too!! I am glad we've rid those ugly fellows from our old souls!! LOL That's okay! Ive not been tickled since I was a small child, and that was rather gentle as I don't feel that urge to visit the Loo Whew! Thank goodness, I did that before I left work!!
Karen
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Originally posted by Karen W.
Is everyone having computer problems? I am wondering with all the computer problems, what is the difference in Broad Band and DSL?
Faster etc?I have a dial up, and very rarely have problems with it..although it is much slower to open pages and download...it is pretty reliable!Is it possible to install a modem in your computer for backup purposes when your brodband or dsl is down?You know so you can just use a dial up service when yours are out. I know that modems are pretty cheap as I replaced one recently and installed it myself..pretty easy!
The main difference between DSL and ADSL is that DSL was a term more commonly used in the USA, but both are generally used to mean the same thing.
As you say, ADSL is a form of DSL (the other is gradually becoming known as SDSL, but is still expensive and targeted at the business market rather than the home market).
'Broadband' is a very generic term that is more marketing speak for any high speed consumer Internet connection.
Cable modems are another form of broadband (used to transmit Internet signals along the cable TV infrastructure rather than the telephone infrastructure), but seems to be losing favour in this country (even by the cable companies) in favour of ADSL.
Yes, one can have a modem backup alongside the broadband connection (in fact one of my routers actually has a serial port to specially allow for this fall-back option). My present problem is that the UK telephone systems are designed to work with a limit of 4 RENs (that for most purposes means that it can connect 4 telephone handsets, or modems, or answering machines), and I already have 3 handsets and one answering machine connected to the line, so I do not have the capacity to connect the modem as well. In the days that I used to regularly use dial-up modems, I had a second telephone line onto which was attached only one handset and the modem, but when I went over to ADSL I had the second telephone line disconnected.
George
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Heya Neilsy...yep, just never know when or what to expect from you...thanks for being so re-FRESHing! LOL
"Lo" Loretta
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Originally posted by moonfire
Heya Neilsy...yep, just never know when or what to expect from you...thanks for being so re-FRESHing! LOL
"Lo" Loretta
Whilst not wishing to take away the wonder that is Georges post above I too wish to say a big ' Hello ' to LO too !!...you too are like the refill to my underarm deodorant [;)]......sorry , I meant air freshener !!....sorry...what I really meant is that you are so refreshing too !!...... LOL...Hugs Lo........[:I]
Men are the same as women, just inside out !
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LOL Hugsie to you Neilsy...You are so sweet...mwah!!!
"Lo" Loretta
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Hey George, Thanks for the information, much more clear! I tried to see if we could get it upgraded a year or so ago, no can do as we don't have the currant upgrades in my area to do it through the phone company.. The cable company we had dsl for awhile but hubby said it was to expensive... He doesn't woork during the winter, I do and my income and his unemployment is what we live on in the winter while I am in school. so combined with tuition and house payments and cost of living he feels it is an extravagance we don't need.... I could probably sell a couple boxes of his beer and pay for it every month, but of coarse those are neccessaties LOL!
Karen
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Neil's connection is down again and he's NOT a happy bunny [:(]
Gaia xxx
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Nope I just got a text he's one hot boy!! I think I would not like to be in the shoes of service provider now.. Although Neil is polite to a tea, he's probably holding it in ...He should let em have it!! LOL make him feel better anyway!! LOL This is very frustrating ... My aol has been messed up all morning to, said I had Damaged Dvx or similar files corrupt or something, one minute fine and Dany the next minute nothing! I reinstalled disk and am back on.. Just a struggle to get on!!
Karen