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Quote from: martin88 on 21/07/2009 01:33:19Quote from: Finally on 20/07/2009 18:27:36I just got my test results: Result: Range:Free Tesosterone: 9.3 7.2-24.0Testosterone Serum 474 241-827DHEA-Sulfate 141 70-310(I take 50-75Mg. DHEA/dayEStradiol 29 0-53Creatinine .74 .76-1.27(I have a vegetarian diet which would lower this.)It seems everything is awfully normal in your blood tests . Was it "in pois" ?I did my tests and went to the MD's office to have the results but they don't have all.Here is what I have: From hospital lab, release friday evening, testing monday morning.Cortisol : 533 (138-690)prolactin : 9.3 (2.7-16.9)TSH : 4.4 (0.4-4.5)Glucose fasting 5.5 (3.9-5.5)HDL cholesterol 0.97 (1.04-1.29)Creatinine 83 (55-110)calcium 2.41 (2.12-2.62)lymphocytes 39.7 (25-45)ferritin 80 (15-350)I didn't wake up very early just before the test, but it's rare, so maybe my cortisol is too high otherwise. TSH and glucose in the high limit. Nothing to explain why I'm so tired..I made sure I was in POIS(what we do for science), although sypmptoms were less severe and prolonged than in the past. I was taking DHEA and Tribulus Terestis so they may have actually elevated my Testosterone level into the range. Unfortunately I don't have any previous Testosterone test to refer back to ,except saliva(several years ago) which was mormal but maybe not that accurate.My Chloresterol was normal but HDL was low. Hormones like Testosterone need chloresterol to be produced.
Quote from: Finally on 20/07/2009 18:27:36I just got my test results: Result: Range:Free Tesosterone: 9.3 7.2-24.0Testosterone Serum 474 241-827DHEA-Sulfate 141 70-310(I take 50-75Mg. DHEA/dayEStradiol 29 0-53Creatinine .74 .76-1.27(I have a vegetarian diet which would lower this.)It seems everything is awfully normal in your blood tests . Was it "in pois" ?I did my tests and went to the MD's office to have the results but they don't have all.Here is what I have: From hospital lab, release friday evening, testing monday morning.Cortisol : 533 (138-690)prolactin : 9.3 (2.7-16.9)TSH : 4.4 (0.4-4.5)Glucose fasting 5.5 (3.9-5.5)HDL cholesterol 0.97 (1.04-1.29)Creatinine 83 (55-110)calcium 2.41 (2.12-2.62)lymphocytes 39.7 (25-45)ferritin 80 (15-350)I didn't wake up very early just before the test, but it's rare, so maybe my cortisol is too high otherwise. TSH and glucose in the high limit. Nothing to explain why I'm so tired..
I just got my test results: Result: Range:Free Tesosterone: 9.3 7.2-24.0Testosterone Serum 474 241-827DHEA-Sulfate 141 70-310(I take 50-75Mg. DHEA/dayEStradiol 29 0-53Creatinine .74 .76-1.27(I have a vegetarian diet which would lower this.)
Hi my name is hardasnails1973 currently I am in school working on my degree of naturopathic medicine. While studying for my ND I also work at hormone clinic in the united state that deals with complex issues of fatigue and also sexual dysfunction as a medical consultant to the MD. The number one thing that I see when people walk into the clinic is that they present symptoms, but there ranges are in "normal range " according to the DR. What is normal for some one is not normal for another person. When dealing with fatigue we focus on the whole endocrine system, life style, nutrition, physical and emotional well being, as well as past child hood traumas. We tend to look at the physiology of the brain and also the interactions of all hormonal and immune systems. 90% of the Dr do not know how to read lab work properly. When properly interpret and levels are restored amazingly people lives start to turnaround. Drs are just lazy and are looking to stick up on some antidepressant when the real cause was something totally unrelated in the first place.
From looking at your blood test results you are severely hypothyroid which could be making your POIS worse then it really is.
Your vegan lifestlye is at the root cause to alot of your issues because with out fat you will not absorb your DHEA. Dhea is a fat soluable vitamin and needs to be taken with some kind of oil or fatty food. I have seen several vegans as clients and in the end they ended up self castrating them selves and shutting down there own thyroid and endocrine system because lack of cholesterol in the diet. Remember times have changed its not the same as it was 50 years ago and 9 time out of 10 most vegans do not know how to mix foods to prevent your minerals from being assimulated properly. SOme times we are our own worst enemies.
From looking at your blood test results you are severely...
Quote from: hardasnails1973 on 24/07/2009 15:29:15From looking at your blood test results you are severely hypothyroid which could be making your POIS worse then it really is.Don't you mean hyperthyroid? (I assume you're referring to Martin's results here).Quote from: hardasnails1973 on 24/07/2009 15:29:15Your vegan lifestlye is at the root cause to alot of your issues because with out fat you will not absorb your DHEA. Dhea is a fat soluable vitamin and needs to be taken with some kind of oil or fatty food. I have seen several vegans as clients and in the end they ended up self castrating them selves and shutting down there own thyroid and endocrine system because lack of cholesterol in the diet. Remember times have changed its not the same as it was 50 years ago and 9 time out of 10 most vegans do not know how to mix foods to prevent your minerals from being assimulated properly. SOme times we are our own worst enemies.You are responding to results from two different people, as one person. Also, "Finally" said he is vegetarian (not vegan?), and I don't think Martin has mentioned whether he is or isn't.
I believe I'm in the same boat as John21 now. Today I O'd and experienced no POIS symptoms. To make myself a believer I did it 2 more subsequent times and I am still experiencing no POIS symptoms. I followed his plan for eating yogurt, I've been doing it for 2 weeks now, and just recently I ordered Threelac. I've took about 7-8 packets of threelac up to date and all I can say is I feel like I finally beat POIS. Usually I am in POIS immediately after orgasm... I just hope this feeling lasts.*** make that 4 times...lol