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QuoteOriginally posted by HadrianThis all shows us just how we and the planet are miss served by our illusion of human inelegance.While I agree that humans can be very inelegant, I assume the word you wanted was intelligence.Making this substitution, I would agree that much of our intelligence is illusory (this is part of the trouble in trying to define artificial intelligence, that we can never really get to grips with how illusory our own intelligence is). The problem is that simply removing that illusion does not give us the intelligence we lack.
Originally posted by HadrianThis all shows us just how we and the planet are miss served by our illusion of human inelegance.
. . . then how are we any qualitatively different from many other species . . .
Jeez - that took some real intelligence to do that!!You would have to be a human, both to do it and to appreciate it.
Actually, he did neither - he gave instructions to his computer to do it . . . . .
QuoteActually, he did neither - he gave instructions to his computer to do it . . . . .By that argument what does any of us actually do?IK Brunell only told other people to do things.
Humans have hands to build things. Other creatures, which may have similar intelligence, don't have hands. I think I'm agreeing with another someone about taking human technology out of the equation here.
What about the Turing test?That works if 'intelligent' means 'like us'.
The only good thing about intelligence is the perpensity to act stupid - and the only thing that saves us all is the fact that we aren't all stupid on the same day.Sorry - just my ignorance showing.
This thread is on to a loser.The word intelligence was coined long before anyone tried to quantify it. It is not a Scientific term and it is not definable. The problem is that it is a very woolly concept and a multidemensional 'quantity'.There are occasions where one can say "A is more intelligent than B" and for it to have some sort of vague meaning but that's about as far as it goes.This discussion is just going to get people cross with each other to no purpose. We're talking faith not fact here.