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It's obvious the world operates by finance; who's being fair with currencies, who's being fair with trade, and of course, "what are we buying and why"?
Science and its protégé technology are no strangers to the stormy seas of finance.
To start the topic, is there any financial worth in being the first to land on a distant planet?
The solar system will always be here, its not going away soon. Shouldn't the question be not who's the first, yet who does it "the right way"?
Birds were the first to fly.
The first man to fly perhaps fell like a stone from a cliff.
Its all about sustained flight then, right?
Are rockets to other planets a concept of sustained flight....with finance in mind....for instance?
Would it not cost less to develop a subterranean or even sub-oceanic community in the event of "evacuate earth" given the arguments for attempting
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The Earth is a psychiatric hospital, and some people ask why we (humans) don't have any contact from others in Universe... give a technology to humans is like give nuclear bombs to monkeys. To be crazy on Earth is at least one chance to be not crazy elsewhere.
It is not only the money the problem, egocentrism is also another big problem.
Humans are so arrogant they invented religions to think god take care of them, even after their death, god created only them, god has nothing else to do than to go to the psychiatric hospital each day to see if one could be more crazy than the last one.
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I'm hearing where you are coming from, and I am sure God would agree.
Yet.....who is really going to be the first to do say, "yeah, we got there"?
The US got the Moon with a rocket, a Saturn V, so damn expensive, almost pointless as way humanity could consider sustaining itself as a "money-shot" economy.
My point is, so much spin about what technology can do right now, right, to save ourselves, right?
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I'm not sure to understand. But you cannot say the technology used to build SaturnV is useless, at least some others things are good. Even, Bill Gates with its stupid OS increases at least the power of microprocessors because a lot money was send to computers. It is bad goal but it serves all. The machines like Terminators could be very soon with us. And people are afraid.
I prefer to think, to do, to try, to build even if the goal is not reach, than to do nothing. Look to others countries than USA, and compare what the technologies were develop.
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What do you know about finance?
90%, perhaps more, of the nations of the world don't have a space agency.
How can any space agency convince the world of such expenditure.....like if we don't we're all going to die?
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Don't worry. Humans do crazy things because they have emotions but it is life.
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Of course, you're seeing the world as a mental institution.
But what do the Doctors say?
It sounds like you're in a 12-monkeys reality, right?
Flight as I said can be achieved when something falls from a great height......and when it hits the ground and there's no return in terms of life, or even economically, its suicide, right?
So we're spending how much to jump back to Earth from a dead rock...and what is that?
What is that on the global economy and resources?
I guess its what you say it is, a mental institution, a mental institution that requires nutty leadership.
Why don't we just wait till we master the science of gravity before act so 12-monkeys?
Imagine all the money we could invest on theoretical ventures re. the theory of gravity before we do bungee rocket-man to dead planets, right?
My belief? The first person to fly into space is not someone with a rocket, its someone who knows the science of space and time as gravity, something that is natural to that process.
AS vastly advanced as we think we are, we are just using rocket-canoes. That's not understanding gravity......thats fighting a tide. Tipping your hat fighting a tide getting to a dead planet is what it is.
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Sure, it is stupid to launch a rocket but they believe it is not possible to create the energy and they believe in the bullshit of space-time. But wait is not a solution, at least it is an adventure for some people.
The doctor believes he is a doctor but he is the worst mad inside the hospital...
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Running to a planet as a dead rock with rockets....to then come back, and that's an achievement with rockets.
What is that?
To prove one can do a lot of things with missiles?
First, right?
And then say alpha centauri is next?
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They believe it is the only solution, others guys try to find something else, they don't so it is not possible. It is crazy because if you think like that, humanity would be always in the trees to eat bananas. It is like a religion, maybe worse because they are sure they think by themselves.
The best they can do with their science is to visit planets in the solar system, not more.
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Finishing off the James Webb Space Telescope and getting it operational would be a good thing. Way over budget, and way behind schedule, it is now in the dangerous category of "too big to fail". It would provide great images of things that are currently invisible, in our own galaxy (eg black hole accretion disks and forming exoplanets) and at the edges of the visible universe (eg the first galaxies).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Webb_Space_Telescope
Building a gravitational wave observatory in space would be practical, and would provide valuable information about what is happening at the center of our galaxy (or nearby galaxies), and maybe explain the lack of visible supernovae.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_Interferometer_Space_Antenna
I think that a manned visit to Mars (or even just a manned fly-by) would be inspiring.
Even just getting Hubble going again would be good (it's been sick for the past week, with a pain in the gyro causing a loss of balance).
But far more money is being spent on space by spy agencies than for scientific research.
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Constructing an underwater safe haven on Earth , although at first it sounds a good idea, it is actually a poor idea.
The reason for this is a very simple reason, you wouldn't lock yourself in a room on a sinking ship if there was no hope of rescue.
My personal opinion on scientific funded areas are that the funds should always focus on ''things'' needed for survival in the long term. In the event of a worldly disaster the only really significant thing that stands out that is needed, is an escape route.
That said, the importance of understanding gravity would in my opinion be a key aspect in humanities survival.
Rockets, certainly are a primitive and a poor form of universal travel that have limitations such as fuel capacity and human capacity. Although we might consider something similar to a star ship out of the Star Trek series to be sci-fi, maybe it is about time we tried to bring sc-fi to reality and create such star ships.
Many people may consider this a far fetched reality but if we can fully unlock the secrets of gravity, then the potential may be there.
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