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Title: NUCLEAR FALLOUT is CARBON-14 = GLOBAL WARMING?? Please Read
Post by: jason2679302 on 30/01/2007 00:09:18
       

I'm not a scientist, not even close.  But I'm a man of many hours of research, and I've noticed that tests on nuclear tests are not as clear as they should be.  I feel it's due to the responsibilty the nations who conducted the blasts, would be highly responsible for almost all cancer and major strange known diseases we have today.

MY CONCERN IS:
I also know of the decay process and how it takes 30-40 years for average radioactive material to breakdown and some material billions of years.  This material is CURRENTLY still breaking down into our atmosphere and turns into CARBON DEPOSITS.  HELLOOOOOOOOOOO???????????   This material in the sky is breaking down every second of every day into CARBON.  There has been NO tests as to if the UNDERGROUND blasts material...makes its way back into the atmosphere...yet causing MORE CARBON in the air. As for the oceans warming these nuclear tests were also conducted in the seas.  Which means it also is BREAKING DOWN INTO CARBON IN THE OCEAN in which the ocean can only handle and unknown amount of carbon.  This could explain why the ice caps are melting, because earth is like just like a human with a sub-conscience and knows that the ocean is running out of room for carbon trying to make more room.  Just like our brain keeps our body at room temperature I feel our earth too, knows when something is wrong and adjusts itself to get it back to normal.  What happens when you overpush your body to extreme?  We all know...

Any response to this and any questions or answers would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.    [???]
Title: NUCLEAR FALLOUT is CARBON-14 = GLOBAL WARMING?? Please Read
Post by: chris on 31/01/2007 22:16:12
Dear Jason

I'm really not sure where you're coming from with this. The energy of a nuclear test is infinitesimally tiny compared with the amount of energy added to the planet every year by the sun, and a coal fired power station running for a few hours adds about 3000 tonnes of carbon dioxide to the air.

We have far more malignant ways of harming the planet than a few old nuclear tests!

Chris
Title: NUCLEAR FALLOUT is CARBON-14 = GLOBAL WARMING?? Please Read
Post by: tony6789 on 07/02/2007 18:33:50
yea...although the some material coud go up in our atmosphere it wouoldnt b near enuf to cause "global Warming"..also global warming causes a hold in our ozone layer...radioactive material does not cause this...also earth i bodly say does not have a subconsionce...when 1 thing happens it affect another thing...our brain in our human bodies have a memory..earth does not or else history wud never epeat itself because it wud know how to stop it
Title: NUCLEAR FALLOUT is CARBON-14 = GLOBAL WARMING?? Please Read
Post by: Bored chemist on 09/02/2007 13:57:05
Jason, you wrote "This material is CURRENTLY still breaking down into our atmosphere and turns into CARBON DEPOSITS."
This simply isn't true. To do that a nucleus would need to be an alpha emitting Oxygen isotope and there aren't any. Or a beta emitting Boron isotope, there are 2 and they have half lives of well under a second. Or an electron capture decaying Nitrogen isotope; again there are 2 but they also have half lives well under a second. If any of these were produced in nuclear testing (and I doubt it) they had decayed away before the people monitoring the test heard the bang.
Also you wrote this "earth is like just like a human with a sub-conscience and knows that the ocean is running out of room"
There simply isn't any evidence for this; as tony6789 has pointed out- the world doesn't have a memory.
Title: NUCLEAR FALLOUT is CARBON-14 = GLOBAL WARMING?? Please Read
Post by: chris on 09/02/2007 14:29:57
Just to pick up on one of Tony's points, global warming does not directly contribute to loss of the ozone layer. That's caused by CFCs (chlorofluorocarbons) accumulating in polar stratospheric clouds in the Antarctic and, due to UV photolysis, forming readicals that then pull ozone to pieces. Global warming does affect the process because it might influence the local temperature and hence the rate of ozone recovery or loss. But it does not per-se cause ozone depletion.

Chris