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Non Life Sciences => Physics, Astronomy & Cosmology => Topic started by: Freeman, Michael on 11/11/2009 09:30:03

Title: How are planets formed?
Post by: Freeman, Michael on 11/11/2009 09:30:03
Freeman, Michael asked the Naked Scientists:
   
I have an idea about planet formations.

There are points in space that have more pull than the surrounding areas. At first the area is invisible until dust and other partials are pushed toward the centre of the imbalanced area (this is the core of the
planets).

Over time, the push will form a planet. This could take billions of years. According to Einstein gravity is a push and not a pull.

So, maybe the planets are pushed together rather than pulled together? We know that we can slingshot around the moon to increase speed. This says the moon will continue to grow, just like the Earth.

My thought is that there are lower points in space that will become intense enough to cause planets to form, from the particles around it that are being pushed toward it.  To go a step farther maybe when the planets explode is not an explosion after all.

Maybe the atmosphere is changing and the planets are pulled apart not exploded apart. (like the changing pressures we have on earth).  This would explain why all planets are round
and not some other shape.
 
What do you think?
 
Michael L. Freeman

What do you think?
Title: How are planets formed?
Post by: Mr. Scientist on 12/11/2009 01:59:19

Planets are formed from the remanents of supernova stars and the debris remains in accretion disks which slowely compactify to create the large steller planatoids.

The force speculated to be at the center of these creations which have taken billions of years to form are suspected to be black holes, which also contribute the entire spiral geometry of entire galaxies.
Title: How are planets formed?
Post by: Soul Surfer on 12/11/2009 18:35:43
Michael Freeman's concept of planet formation is completely at variance with the observed laws of physics and therefore completerly invalid.
Title: How are planets formed?
Post by: Vern on 12/11/2009 21:11:51
The idea of push gravity enjoyed some following about forty years ago; however it is pretty much discredited now. Richard Feynman commented that the pushing particles would exert drag on the planets and cause orbital decay.

Walter Wright seems to be the best known advocate (http://keelynet.com/gravity/wright.htm) these days. But his arguments are roundly refuted by physicists.

Quote from: the link
Physics Professor Eugene D. Commins at the University of California, who knew Einstein personally, called the notion of push-gravity 'totally false. I say that without qualification.' He said where Newtonian physics doesn't explain gravitational forces, Einstein's General Relativity theory does.

Wright is unfazed, particularly since his novel ideas have made him a sort of guru to what he calls his 'following' of teenage science students, sci-fi fans and even some physical scientists he calls 'unbrainwashed' by Newtonian physics.
Title: How are planets formed?
Post by: RD on 12/11/2009 23:43:03
That the orbits of the planets have integer ratios (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titius%E2%80%93Bode_law) suggests the planets were formed by resonance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_resonance) effects.
Title: How are planets formed?
Post by: Mr. Scientist on 13/11/2009 02:36:21
That the orbits of the planets have integer ratios (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titius%E2%80%93Bode_law) suggests the planets were formed by resonance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_resonance) effects.
Mmm... interesting.