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Life Sciences => Plant Sciences, Zoology & Evolution => Topic started by: nicephotog on 03/01/2012 11:34:04
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What would be difference between an early Homonid skull of a male or a female apart its size?
A half grown male(being the same height as a full grown female) may even have softer characteristics in an Australopithecine apart be an easier target because of the few other people available also.
I'm of the opinion that transgender may mot have been the result of pure satanic influence, but in some persons, the result of evolution potentially because of the lack of value of recognition of the opposite sex in an archaic world because facial features and size of the person played a role in evelutionary adaption to some level of value to evolving.
It's presumed that standard traits of psychology of male and female exist in early mammal hominids, but in animals that live now such like is not always the aggressive result presumed either(rare). Again in brain refinements of morality, it is not considered over the 4 million year period that there was much in terms of reverence built into brain function until 500 thousand - 1 million years back with H. Heidelbergensis.
A minor number of the trannies / tgirls / ladyboys can be found on the internetnet porn(note a point: statistically most are able to have been a commando or brick-layer or spokesperson/collector for the BLF(Builders Labourers Federation) , around 1/20 may have a good set of skull increments) sites are a testemant to their skull being incrementally and of morphise for positions of articles of "H. Sapiens, as a female not a male", ear position on the skull , no brow on the forehead , more rear skull set lower behind , front of face from side on view vertical not swept back under the nose, softer transitions. These viewed are full grown adult males that compared to the skull points of many small boys of even 5 years are softer than normal males in skull morphise.
Technically it is considered all of them are either psychologically strange or outright homosexual, of the preceding thought i've written here is a thought calculable of that even having some oriency to being such as "a more obvious male that isn't female" for their brains operation.
Another horrible point is the distortion churches and particular cult nationalisms have as their definitive creed obscures and probably killed out any such natural versions of what these could be.
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Humans:
http://ecrimescenechemistrymiller.wikispaces.com/Anthropology
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Did they have female members of the Homo-Erectus, with all skulls having the prominent brow ridges and low forehead angles common in the human male skulls.
http://patagoniamonsters.blogspot.com/2011/01/homo-erectus-in-america-evidence.html
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When you look at chimp skulls, it is possible to also determine male vs female, although perhaps the features that one looks for in Human skulls would be different than those that one would look for in human and hominid skulls, including the adult males being larger than the females.
My guess is that if one finds a single skull fragment from an early hominid species without any comparative skulls, or pelvic bones, it would be difficult to conclusively determine the sex of the individual. Finding multiple skulls, one can determine those with typical "female" features, and those with "male" features. Or, finding a series of skulls of evolutionary steps, one can also determine the evolution of male vs female features.
As far as transvestites... I don't know. I believe many of them actually take steps to accentuate the female features including possibly taking hormones and having surgical operations. I believe it is more of a mental condition than a morphological condition.
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Thanks for the reply, but to be clearer, how much "appearance difference" while excluding size aince we know there is a difference of growth and maturation size.
I believe many of them actually take steps to accentuate the female features including possibly taking hormones and having surgical operations.
They certainly do take pills to adjust themselves in most cases which are the 19/20 19 of 20 that have an uncomparitive appearence to a natural female(Trannys of H. Sap.).
Its not the point , its simply the point that (something alike - i've never obtained good images and increment scales to compare them "Biometrics")1/20 appear to be physically in facial/cranial and somewhat their skeletal composure as a natural female "the final ripoff" and a different set have unperfect properties of natural females but the case that may match internally to their brain wiring to the same effect.
So 18 - 19 of 20 are definitely nothing natural but the final version is clearly not nescissarilly actually pills and water to make the effect , to do such as a 1/20 may only be only "enhancement" anyhow. I say this because "you can't make a silk purse from a sows ear" and no quantity of pills and water will cause "PAFF!!!" alike the prince and the frog in MAD magazine. For that appearence to occur that would require something that mad, i dont believe you could split up the cranial features of a 1/20 unless it was part of total reconstruction.
The point is, that to evolve such a creature would require the anarchic world of chaos that pre H. Sapiens lived , finalised by settlements. note: settlements are better for disposing of unwanted internal community intruders because they fall asleep. 3/4 of the worlds politics is affected by that type of point to this very day and has been quite a decider in who is accepted in a nation and whom is got rid of.
This is what happens from the 1/20 often enough someway.
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Here are some pages on facial feminization.
http://www.bevhills.com/tg/photos
http://www.drbecky.com/dko.html
Now, I must admit that some of them do have some feminine features before augmentation. However, a lot is added with the medical procedures. Also consider the overall feminine grooming.
After hairline forehead lift
hairline lowering
orbital bony contouring
voice modification and tracheal shave
rhinoplasty
lower blepharoplasty
soft tissue to nasal-labial folds
lip augmentation
cheek implants,
chin revision
Obviously there is a large person to person variability. However, I am surprised at the marked male/female differences.
It would be interesting to make a cross-racial comparison, as well as looking at archeological changes in facial features.
Looking at art, there certainly has been a change in the characterization of beauty over the last few centuries, or even the last few decades.
What we see in our current human form is likely a mix of historical attractiveness, as well as functionality. Perhaps even features left from small clans of invaders.
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Looking at art, there certainly has been a change in the characterization of beauty over the last few centuries, or even the last few decades.
I should have also said, that's relative to much of the idea of i'm suggesting is "propagation of evolving either psychological circuitry to view-percieve as a mate the same sex or to be physically and psychologically closer to a female as a male by physical adaption" was started in Australopithicus and H. Ergaster,Erectus,Africansas refined social environment(next to none) of such a more offbeat social psychology would be enabled with, until H Heidelbergensis, because level of moral perception(next to none) at the "action of and aquisition of illicited delights", simply fundamental species principles as canines often show at picking the wrong sex as a sexual mate or as felines do sometimes also.
Unlike them the Hominids have far greater scope to commit the action either temporarily or permanently upon a victim before civilizations occurred(and with particular note to the thought that H. Heidelbergensis had some type of extra in built moral judgement by evolution) of that itself is certainly not a strict or any truth about them even to the present day that such activity is considered even abnormal.
So in conclusion, puritanically, Homosexuals(in their personal pure perspective of viewing masculine males and effectively ignoring feminised versions) are inclusive as possibly simply containing a remnant evolved DNA precursor for development or inbuilt brain function circuitry that "causes their perception of ideal mate to be by appearence and personic attitude" another masculinised male.
Ta! thanks for that it's spot on between third surgically added eye about how some have been transformed(pardon the pun).
Obviously there is a large person to person variability. However, I am surprised at the marked male/female differences.
It is however a small point because the majority of them at face value can be recognised as males "after"(bevhills.com/tg/photos) and also show in skeletal physique, simply not near as much, to meet any one of them you'd pick up on it at worst if you didn't hear them speak.
I don't know if you can find a computer that ethically allows browsing of such sites but compared , many of those in the photos would show as possibly being male in a basic resolution video.
It would be interesting to make a cross-racial comparison, as well as looking at archeological changes in facial features.
http://nerdbastards.com/2010/09/23/collegehumor-pinocchio-has-gender-issues/
Certainly would, because "oddly" the asians(Mongoloids) appear to have plenty that are the 1/20 i'm curious to know if there ever was any surgery or pills(for some i suppose), thats not to say they don't have their share of the ones that dress up and simply modify their own behavior.
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Here's another lot that in which you can find hidden away that type of presonally committed self personification, but they form from a completely different reason mostly(mostly money and availability of what operates) that may not be suitable for statistical biometric survey work, this clip shows one type of their hang out / joint you'd find them of which can be viewed as is what well may be or stereotypically. (that may or may not include the trombone player in it as i can't see that that well either , but maybe that's another way of "Seldom Seen" saying it!!! just like the two fighting beside a steep designed narrow staircase(fighting "as hard as nuts" , of which may not be available or allowed in the joint because they don't have such things there, "for um! reasons you'd ask them if they had") a rip off of a Seldom Seen type "view the ladies technique" , and the two guys clinking tankards(who may have later cancelled on one, probably for cost of too much boozing, but may have been sophisticated politeness of seldom seen variety because the two possible prison wardens may have had nothing for the night themselves if they bought both(whatever they are hinted to be), but two to one is enough ,though at the end that may have been 4 to one enough as the final cost - because one warden was struck by a chair the other almost had to move out of his chair - this is not to ply that it is a particular use of Stockholm or the film scene can actually be read that deeply but it is suggested some trait format is there for truths accuracy sake of a seldom scene type of bar) "and possibly a warder not requiring to move out of his seat(and in two cases of that)."). That's the type of place "Seldom Seen"(re Kansas City 1800's) district is.
Since that appears to conclude that about skull appearance and hereditory ancestors...
pies lesu domine dona eis requiem
English translation: Jesus, Merciful Lord, let them rest in peace
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Sorry to bring back an old thread a moment, i've found something interesting.
CliffordK on: "Male and female skull morphise"
Humans:
http://ecrimescenechemistrymiller.wikispaces.com/Anthropology
I just realised from that "male female side view human skull chart" , the Lupus Alpha females aren't girls neither the omega, they're all trannies.
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note that Lupus' forehead sweeps back low whereas familiaris brow is more upright at right angle to the lateral top plane of the muzzle and familiaris a more one to one skull cap to jaw and muzzle, Much of lupus brain is behind the muzzle.
I wonder if the skull morphise coincides the reactive aggressive nature in the brain wiring...
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Finally found some critical information on 1920s social sexual perception (re: Der Dritte Raum video).
The following link relates 1920s clothing under the heading "1920s Fashion And Masculinity"
http://fashionbloglife.com/1920sfashion/
Its not clear to me whether women could suffer chain reactionally induced disordered condition such as 'Penis Envy' that would dictate womens fashion style around the world but it is interesting to note the actual conditions that can be spotted presented within some of the eras film. One of the women in the video is probably a female factory worker such as assembly or process worker, the arms are truly recognisable as neither a weight lifter but certainly not pettite of character and totally recognisable to me from the factory production lines i've worked on.
And digging down through layers of decaying matter again, this one is another query set...
A clue, in factories and workshops the bosses wore an apron when they left the office to go to the work section, that only covered them past the waist to the knees, So an extra was put on which they used to protect the front of their legs from fluid splash and dirty materials they would knee out of the way(a warehouse worker is the best modern present day example of that action), they would clip behind the legs a cover over the front of the legs.
This is set to a speak easy(thats how much attention to what it is present your noticing , for a flash of a moment in the clips there is a speak easy style advertisement of the subject matter) background and taken from many popular 1930's and 1940's B&W movies.
"Der Dritte Raum" translation:"The third space" (note: der die das "der is the male version of the word the in german")
(sorry about the resolution of the clip,butt i believe is an intention on the part of the creator(pardon the pun),but when played clearly(though there are very few Quantisation table sets in use in its compressor so picture quality is poor in reassembly) and as i remember in the 1980's saturday afternoon TV or second night movie(our regional TV stations were povertous but for it being first world technology) because i have seen some of those old movies and evening dinner of steak and three veg turns to meatballs, you can see your being ripped off to your face in some. The authenticity of the rip ranges from possible old world british "actor casting tradition", to out-right brazen actual of these are generally in such movies only the background dance girls in the one piece no-legs-no-arms swimsuits at the level of cash in hand employment at the film studio or site whos only value is it will rip you to your face). There are demonstration of "professional female impersonators" and it appears a female that is a "professional male impersonator", but in some of these, the others are definitely losing the argument for a moment, of one as i remember it, the movie with the carousel scene which isn't actually shown here is quite a blooper, and the character is cast as a female support actor out-right but does not do any real time in the movie.
Finally, i'm well aware some are probably nothing more than a prank(outside of the cast impersonators for parity), its simply some of them really have the point if that is not a mechanical prank of in some as the background dancing girls(the most common, however, incidence is rare - note: most other clothing material and construction and wearing layer format near always "do not allow valid assessment at any resolution and sometimes cause illusive effects" (one illusive effect is the speak easy language effect)) probably are simply not, just sneeky bastards getting paid cash in hand(with capital punishment before 1950 who's to argue against that one, as possibly a dragging process worker feeling out factory bosses production line roller benches), but i wouldn't say a caster or director cared much at any stage too if it were cheaper or simply more effective since women of the era were probably prone to being more feeble or timid at high stress group teamwork work in acting accuracy(example re: the girl with the bloke in the rap dance scene on the stairs in the stage production ballroom-dining scene (if that's a girl - re physical strength and weight - stamina Kj Kc)).
Most of these activities for the era production type and technique require it to succeed balls and all so they were probably simply pushed through to be sure it payed and finished in its budget without physical mishap(or fresh fruit-hap if it were dancing girls)
Can you spot the difference, and i must say, you need to be a biometrician in many cases(but not about the fold out car which biometrically can be measured in BHP or MPa lift pressure).
Just take a look at those butts at the end, that was your great grandfather not g mother, or is that him shaking his hat at the vehicles???
The clip has ones in it like...
the lady like one ..."c'mon gimme back me lighter"...
and the one with the pennants that lost that Navy battle because there is no surrender or excuse(that one is a definite lesson in how to speak seak-easy grammer)
Then there's the one with the fireman, that's both ladylike and a bit biometric (but if i remember it those may have been deliberate impersonators, if they were'nt that's not like some dance floors where the girl is thrown/dragged around by pivotal force of the male as in some old movies).
Here's another way that stuff could make its way into films , there are a myriad of possible plauses how and why and many quite mundane and rational though its between 1925 - 1950.
nb: 1:05 The guy sounds frightened and disturbed in this video, i thought narcotics did that to you.
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What is the point of wondering if these things form a point relating Early Hominid skulls in evolution?
The problem of deciding what evolution does as a job on survival is often expressed in terms of a random mutation succeeding in an environment change , not in parameters of the brief of adaption from direct pressure to do so.
The skull apart some of the pivotal and incremental physical mechanics of the human skeleton shows large detail of opposite sex character to present trigger to social activity by presentational psychological mechanisms of behavior (aka instictive queue - for example long haired poofters of the 60's and seventies and chase).
There appears to be a central value of biometric characteristics of either male of female for human skulls thats only proper recognition(don't call me a motorcyclist again although that point is actually quite true i had both licenses for manual and bike during my younger life) occurs from being able to view it with the whole alive to be presented something akin to a majority score of points to it being either a male or a female.
Equational problem solving like the above here bother me because of an alike example of the destruction of a Myan city kingdom i once read of.
At face value(pardon the pun) of a respectable archeologists years of study and writings (whom have probably met treachery and assassins in basic history training) the story they dug up may not have shown well because of the immense numbers of bodies by the kill total.
The archeologists feel that the king whom was found in a pile of building fill in front of the palace in the center of the city was waiting along with his army for the destroying attackers that killed him. His nobles and many of his family were slaughtered inside a common bath room in his palace, and the guards and some soldiers were found slaughtered along with some people on the route into the city to the palace.
I hate to say it here and now, but the frequency of kill finds and their placement really indicate that was most likely no more than one or two people killed them while they were waiting for someone to arrive at the city meaning they were all looking forward and it was slaughtered along the route from behind and inside out.
While the der dritte raum video is not particularly useful because it shows little of anything that classifies an actual genuine softening of masculine characteristics to feminisation of a male(and then for most plenty of losers at it), you can be presented the idea that could easily be what that was of one or two there apart the *"many other substantially rational reasons you may be finding thats a bloke in drag" (You would need to go through quite a few films between 1920 and 1950 to achieve a genuine fixed(and tiny number of...) quantity of the male type and bloopers of Black and White photography to see its credible use as a statistic - meaning i'm nearly lying through my teeth / keyboard for what can genuinely be accredited as evidence (finding the neighbourhood clown is easier)).
Of consideration of how monarchies and other facist governance systems of all rights reserved only for the elite, it becomes a problem that masculine characteristics are those in some feature of obviousness will produce a contestant to the ruling power, whereas feminisation of characteristics produce the more desired characteristics of the population for facist physical control. So in essence maonarchy and facism builds losers physically unlike anarchaic democracy governance. The same again can be said of intellectual abilities in such populations, it is considered much easier to prevent intellects/change in facist governance because it requires the masculine physical characteristics to be present aside to male psychology of alpha drive.
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stunt men dressed up
masculinised female (factory / process worker)
artistic director demonstrating a character
actors required to be dressed for the storyline
prank
physical genetic medical condition (physical symptom reaction)
purely a drag in progress of his activity
government effected baiting /research creating an acquisition point of enquiry
So it says the cat fight is pretty good either way...
(Other supportive reference information "The truth in advertising" How complex multi million dollar productions are constructed by specialists
..."lots of hissy fits"...)
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How to speak speak-easy test
Now lets test you, (remember, we've learned speak-easy never actually says anything exacting just like the bible) to find if you've learned anything.
Here are two clips in we find "we are being given marker signals" i call "indicators" . These indicators are to tell you "you're being taken for a complete rip". What your being told however, is something aken to "would you ever know that?!"
Sort through these following problems and find if you have an actual valid answer.
Problems
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For the charger add, a large quantity are the behavioral "isms" of a character you cannot see much evidence of until the end of the advertisement.
Often this advertisement was labeled sexist toward women. But if there are not any(whether you can know that or not) , try this old 1970's cultural expression for most of them in the commercial for one reason or another ..."make a real man of you"...
There would be at least one woman in all of it because thats all it requires to hold onto your weirdos because she's bigger than all of them together, and to be told or trained to get down there herself and see what mischief they are getting up to is to ..."be making a real man of her"... (because she is the only one rates a man among them) is the 70's expression for doing that.
Banned Commercials - 1970 Dodge Charger 500 (vintage 70's)
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(cleaning) Living in jail is a traumatic experience. The treatment only goes as far as what is available, when it is.
Best Emotional Advertisement
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There is a slang expression for all of those bloopers and videos, its called a "quiet riot".
Finally, i have always been impressed by artists apt ability to talk to and handle other people particularly difficult ones though they are even trained with a degree to operate a computer all day every day as their major for doing work.
hmmmm - more about being taken for a rip by "dancing ......."
From examination of my garbage bin(internet connection), it appears one particular facet helps trannies , and that tends to be their skeletal increment ratio of height relating leg length, longer legs help, and have only a small contribution to any feminine characteristics of appearence in Caucasoids. Caucasoids do appear to contain males that have feminine appearence at thoroughbred level, however the incidence in only making minor adjustment is immensely rare, for almost all it would require the usual industrial tool shop and zoning to commit the feminising effects.
Asian national(Mongoloids) males flog the lights out of the world at having a percentage of population of males whos appearence in the skull features tends (to do better than long legged Caucasoids) to be close to feminine requiring only minor adjustment. They have a percentage of population with a shorter leg to body height increment ratio which remain able to achieve much better results to being feminine at many angles consistently unlike caucasoids or Negroids.
This tends to suggest that any of these whites whom get the characteristics that are more feminine could have Mongoloid bloodline at some time. Blacks(Negroids) do not tend to have any with anything more than the characteristics mixed with an asian national bloodline.
Personally i feel Caucasoids and Negroids really do not contain any people or bloodlines of softened feminine characteristic and any such people would be useful to DNA test to find if they have Mongoloid DNA-strands present of signifigance.
Feminine morphise of males resultant in freaking abhorent stats...
Rare but not non existent in Caucasoids.
Rare but not non existent in Negroids.
Minor existence in Mongoloids.
Once again ... hmmmm - more about being taken for a rip by "dancing ......."
So here's this to think of if you become an archeologist or species geneticist in another 1/2 a million years(min. time for evolving it appears)
Here's a time , it's an H.Sapien
(Video M rating (G rated probably))
http://www.verytranny.com/ts-julia-london-2011-4223.html
The magic of illusion...
AND AGAIN TAKEN FOR A RIP.....
UPDATE 31st March 2012
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