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Title: How to make water non polar........
Post by: kikichemical on 06/02/2008 08:06:43
water is the polar molecule, so they can solve with oil.......but if we find "how to making water non polar...so we can solving it with oil for the energy rewenable.....wow it can be a biggest reseach in the world.....i have a complex think and way to change the pole of water....
Title: how to make water non polar........
Post by: Soul Surfer on 06/02/2008 10:05:32
kikichemical   The properties of particular molecules are determined by the properties of the atoms of which they are composed and it is not possible to modify the properties of atoms only connect them in different structures.

Also the difference between water and oil is not just a property of its polar structure.  Most fuels consist of materials that can be oxidised using the oxygen in the air with the liberation of energy  water is hydrogen that has already been oxidised and therefore unless you can extract the hydrogen from the water (and this takes a lot of energy)  you cannot use water as a conventional fuel.
Title: how to make water non polar........
Post by: lightarrow on 06/02/2008 12:24:25
Quote from: kikichemical on 06/02/2008 08:06:43
water is the polar molecule, so they can solve with oil.......but if we find "how to making water non polar...so we can solving it with oil for the energy rewenable.....wow it can be a biggest reseach in the world.....i have a complex think and way to change the pole of water....
Soaps or, in general, emulsifiers substances, can make oil be "dispersed" in water; it's not a real solution water/oil but for many purposes is effective.
Title: how to make water non polar........
Post by: kikichemical on 08/02/2008 03:02:27
the water fuel is different with it.....if we want to produce a hidrogen only in a water....it's called fuel cell tecnology...the fuel cell...will generated water to produce a hydrogen with a electricity reaction, water is content between 2 mol hidrogen and 1 mol oksigen.....with a electricity reaction the both of molecule will be assist the proton  and electron in a small cell....so it can generated a hidrogen and the exchaust will be generated a water.......
i means water fuel is water with a short reaction so can be solving with a oil and burning together........have you heard about it........      [O8)]
Title: how to make water non polar........
Post by: Soul Surfer on 08/02/2008 09:51:47
Sorry your command of English is not good enough to understand what you are trying to say.  Please re read my first reply pointing out that it takes just as much energy to separate hydrogen and oxygen to make fuel as it does to combine them again to make energy.

There are ways to inject water into oil burning engines to increase the power out by a sort of hybrid internal combustion and and steam technology but they have only been used seriously as a way of briefly increasing power output as in aircraft taking off.  This does not need the oil and water to be mixed
Title: how to make water non polar........
Post by: kikichemical on 11/02/2008 12:20:36
yeah..sorry..i didnt want to make you confused...this what i means...in one country there is issue about the water fuel..i means in this fact that water can be used in a car without a modification in a machine...is true or not...i didnt know...about the solar system..they used a sun energy...and this system will be depend with it....so i think the solar system can be used only in a country who a have a hot weather long time....i prefer to choice a coal gasification or liquid coal gasification...... [O8)]