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Title: The theory of variable action
Post by: jeffreyH on 19/11/2016 15:11:11
Planck's constant describes a quanta of action. A variable action can be defined that varies in a way that depends upon the constant speed of light in vacuum. In this way the shift in the spectrum of light is the result of variable action. Since at the Planck scale time is defined by the Planck constant then a variation of time due to the effects of gravitation can be expressed as a variable action rather than a predefined constant. This 'theory' is in the early stages of development.
Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: jeffreyH on 19/11/2016 17:35:31
The proper energy of the photon E is a function of the emission energy E0. The resulting equation is E = E0/gamma. This is independent of time. Since this applies to light then this is no surprise. An equation for tardyons may depend on time. That is the aim of the current work. To find the correct equation. Gamma in the above relates to the velocity of an SR inertial frame of reference through which the light passes. This does NOT apply to GR.
Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: GoC on 19/11/2016 18:56:58
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Planck's constant describes a quanta of action. A variable action can be defined that varies in a way that depends upon the constant speed of light in vacuum. In this way the shift in the spectrum of light is the result of variable action. Since at the Planck scale time is defined by the Planck constant then a variation of time due to the effects of gravitation can be expressed as a variable action rather than a predefined constant. This 'theory' is in the early stages of development.


Finally someone gets it!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: jeffreyH on 19/11/2016 20:01:13
I wouldn't get too excited.
Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: jeffreyH on 19/11/2016 20:09:55
For a tardyon the action is u = Lp(gamma). Where L is a light second and p is momentum. Note this is basically relative angular momentum under a different name. The angular momentum of light is then a 1 radian angle. David Cooper's ideas on trigonometry and relativity can then be related to action.
Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: GoC on 20/11/2016 17:26:24
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I wouldn't get too excited

This is correct I shouldn't. I saw words and symbols that I would use in a way I would use them. I keep forgetting all of those words have different meanings to you and others. For instance the word time means something different to many than to myself.

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The proper energy of the photon E is a function of the emission energy Eo.

We have different ideas of emission energy's foundation. Your perspective is the electron as the source of propagation of the photon.  Equivalence between SR and GR would suggest differently.

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The resulting equation is E = E0/gamma. This is independent of time.

Here is where we have a different understanding of time. Planks distance is a time segment. Eo in space far away from mass has a planks length for the time segment. E0 is the planks length in the highest dilation of space energy. So there is more density of energy in space than in dilated space. There is a different distance length for dilation in GR relative to how we measure time. So Gamma (dilation) is not independent of time energy distance.

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An equation for tardyons may depend on time.
Of course, which is the gamma term in Relativity.

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Gamma in the above relates to the velocity of an SR inertial frame of reference through which the light passes. This does NOT apply to GR.

Geometry is the equivalence between SR and GR. GR is physical and SR is visual equivalence. I can show the simple equations for SR length vs. time measured in SR. If you follow light being independent of the source a Relativity postulate. Momentum is not a factor in light speed.

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This does NOT apply to GR

It does as equivalence. All measurements are done in GR.

Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: jeffreyH on 14/01/2017 17:54:00
The gravitational constant G is defined by the expression lp3/[mptp2]


If hbar is replaced by ubar, a reduced coordinate value for the Planck constant, then the following equations result.


lp2/G = ubar/c3


tp2/G = ubar/c5

So that a coordinate change in the speed of light is proportional to changes in the gravitational constant and the Planck values.





Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: guest39538 on 14/01/2017 18:18:25
Planck's constant describes a quanta of action. A variable action can be defined that varies in a way that depends upon the constant speed of light in vacuum. In this way the shift in the spectrum of light is the result of variable action. Since at the Planck scale time is defined by the Planck constant then a variation of time due to the effects of gravitation can be expressed as a variable action rather than a predefined constant. This 'theory' is in the early stages of development.
A variable action can be described as any event of action  relative to 0.     Everything and my future theory of a theory of everything, everything is relative to 0.
0 being the unbounded quantity of time and space. The ''stationary'' reference frame whole.

For example - 5.972 × 10^24 kg  the earths mass relative to 0.
Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: jeffreyH on 14/01/2017 18:53:40
OK.


Well consider this. The time and space equations can be written without G by replacing it with its Planck components.


mptp2/lp = ubar/c3


mptp2/lp tp2/lp2 = ubar/c3 1/c2


The second factors in the time based equation change distance equations to time equations. Removing these could be treated in the same way as when c=G=h=1. Thus time can be equated to space.
Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: jeffreyH on 14/01/2017 19:09:36
Note also that the reciprocal of c squared is an energy to mass conversion factor which we can now relate to the conversion of space equations to time equations. There has to be some significance in that.
Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: jeffreyH on 14/01/2017 19:47:52
Treating time like another space dimension will result in pure energy equations which scale in a way required for Horava gravity.
Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: guest39538 on 15/01/2017 11:52:59
OK.


Well consider this. The time and space equations can be written without G by replacing it with its Planck components.


mptp2/lp = ubar/c3


mptp2/lp tp2/lp2 = ubar/c3 1/c2


The second factors in the time based equation change distance equations to time equations. Removing these could be treated in the same way as when c=G=h=1. Thus time can be equated to space.
The maths may as well  be Chinese writing to me, I don't understand your equation.  But if you are equating time to space, then I agree with the maths even though I don't understand it , knowing you are very good   at maths, trusting your maths.
Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: jeffreyH on 15/01/2017 12:08:38
Sorry. I will try to explain better. At the smallest scale past which measurement is impossible Max Planck showed how these units can be derived. He started with a constant that was found via analysis of the electromagnetic spectrum. This was the Planck constant h. The minimum amount of action. The Planck length lp, Planck time tp and Planck mass mp are all derived from h. The gravitational constant is derived from the Planck length, time and mass. I will put together more information later.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_units#Cosmology (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_units#Cosmology)


Read this through a few times.
Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: jeffreyH on 15/01/2017 14:30:09
OK.


Well consider this. The time and space equations can be written without G by replacing it with its Planck components.


mptp2/lp = ubar/c3


(mptp2/lp) (tp2/lp2) = (ubar/c3) (1/c2)


The second factors in the time based equation change distance equations to time equations. Removing these could be treated in the same way as when c=G=h=1. Thus time can be equated to space.

I have bracketed the second equation above for reasons I will now explain. The equation E = mc2 can convert an energy to a mass expression by rearranging it as m = E/c2. This is E multiplied by the reciprocal of c squared 1/c2. This is the mechanism used in the bracketed second equation to convert a space equation to a time equation. So that space is to energy as time is to mass. It may mean nothing as patterns can be coincidental.
Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: jeffreyH on 15/01/2017 14:37:00
You could say that energy is expressed in a volume of space and need not have a rest mass. We need a change in time to express mass. The big question is does this imply motion? A change in time does not necessarily imply a change in position. The other question is then does the Higgs field require motion for the mass term to appear. I haven't looked into this yet. If anyone has any references?
Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: jeffreyH on 15/01/2017 18:11:52
The quanta of energy of oscillation is given by:
E = (n + 1/2)hv
Where n is the quanta of amplitude, an integer, and the factor of 1/2 is the indeterminacy. The value h is of course Planck's constant and v is frequency. This can be reformulated with the coordinate action value u.
E = ( n + 1/2)uv
As the action changes due to a change in velocity then so does the apparent energy of oscillation.


Note that this leaves frequency and amplitude unchanged so that due to time dilation there is an apparent shift for changing coordinates.
Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: GoC on 15/01/2017 19:48:17
Eventually there will be the discovery that energy is of space E=c spin as the energy base for relativity. Quantum mechanics creates relativity by c micro particle spin. Dark mass is the particle and spin of the particle is the dark energy. Dark energy (spacetime) moves the electron which gives the ratio between the electron and light (photon) relationship to c and each other.

Your showing the relationship in your equations but not understanding what causes the relationship.
Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: jeffreyH on 15/01/2017 22:25:16
This is speculative since at the moment I have no way of matching any of it to observations. It is not that I don't understand. It is that it is not on a solid foundation. There is a difference.
Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: GoC on 16/01/2017 05:25:43
The point is what causes Planck time. What you are doing is valid but the question goes deeper. I appreciate your efforts.
Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: jeffreyH on 16/01/2017 19:20:40
Action and string theory. Firstly there is this.
https://www.quora.com/What-would-a-universe-with-a-variable-Planck-constant-normally-distributed-about-6-626068-%C3%97-10-34-m2-kg-s-look-like (https://www.quora.com/What-would-a-universe-with-a-variable-Planck-constant-normally-distributed-about-6-626068-%C3%97-10-34-m2-kg-s-look-like)

Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: jeffreyH on 16/01/2017 19:25:43
Then this.
http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=https://cds.cern.ch/record/321068/files/9701063.pdf&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiR9e_SscfRAhUoCcAKHbb9D_oQFggkMAk&usg=AFQjCNE2SgE_yGPY4P_VxmIpDujUgt0L4g (http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=https://cds.cern.ch/record/321068/files/9701063.pdf&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiR9e_SscfRAhUoCcAKHbb9D_oQFggkMAk&usg=AFQjCNE2SgE_yGPY4P_VxmIpDujUgt0L4g)
Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: GoC on 05/02/2017 15:05:32
The quanta of energy of oscillation is given by:
E = (n + 1/2)hv
Where n is the quanta of amplitude, an integer, and the factor of 1/2 is the indeterminacy. The value h is of course Planck's constant and v is frequency.

This is the dilation in GR or the speed in SR reduction of available energy. In more dilated space the angle of c energy becomes greater. This is the density factor of energy. Less dense energy creates an electron jump further because mass expands in more dilated space. Planks length actually changes with physical dilation in GR. This changes the angle and length of the wave.
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This can be reformulated with the coordinate action value u.
E = ( n + 1/2)uv
As the action changes due to a change in velocity then so does the apparent energy of oscillation.
Yes with vector speed available energy to c is reduced by the ratio Sq. Rt. 1-v^2/c^2 which also changes the angle of planks length. And of course the length. This is the equivalence between SR and GR. Its all in the energy of c separate from mass.

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Note that this leaves frequency and amplitude unchanged so that due to time dilation there is an apparent shift for changing coordinates.

Only for the measured frequency in every frame. Your measuring devise changes exactly with the measurements related to c.
Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: Bored chemist on 05/02/2017 16:49:54
... This 'theory' is in the early stages of development.

It might work out better for you if you use the right words.

"A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed, preferably using a written, predefined, protocol of observations and experiments."
from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory
Title: Re: The theory of variable action
Post by: jeffreyH on 05/02/2017 17:49:29
... This 'theory' is in the early stages of development.

It might work out better for you if you use the right words.

"A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed, preferably using a written, predefined, protocol of observations and experiments."
from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory


Hence the quote marks. It is really a speculative hypothesis. Quite possibly incorrect.

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