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Life Sciences => Plant Sciences, Zoology & Evolution => Topic started by: paul.fr on 04/05/2007 23:18:36
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I am guessing that magic mushrooms and other plant/fungi based drugs grow in fields populated by cows. Assuming i am right, do cows get high? If not, why?
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Not sure, but are not most magic mushrooms forest organism rather than things that grow in the field.
I have heard that some toxic mushrooms (most magic mushrooms are also potentially toxic, some very toxic, others only marginally so) are fed to raindeer, and then the raindeer's urine is drunk (this being safer than eating this particular type of mushroom directly).
Different animals can react totally differently to the same foods. Cats and dogs can find chocolate to be toxic, whereas other animals can find some plants that are toxic to us to be harmless to them (this is one of the hazards with relying on animal testing of drugs to prove their safety for humans).
Certainly alcohol is intoxicating for most animals (including fruit flies), and substantial amounts of alcohol can be consumed from rotting fruit.
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Not sure, but are not most magic mushrooms forest organism.....
i don't know George. I have heard tales of people raiding fields enmass for the mushrooms. How true is that? No idea. I have also heard that about reindeer's urine.
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How would you know if a cow was stoned?
I guess the fermentation processes in the cow's stomach(s) might destroy the active ingredients in magic mushrooms. (And I have it on fairly good authority that they do grow in fields rather than woodland)
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Three Stoned cows :
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Err is that cow eating marjuana?
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have you never haerd of Cow pots................LOL [^]
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Three Stoned cows :
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OH MY I am in LOVE... What a great smile and beautiful lips! LOL
By the way a cow has two stomaches which help them to digest things like that .way back they were found to have had tons of buttercups in their tummies which are poison... anyways the study had to do with how the stomachs work to digest just such things keeping the cow safe. they chew a "cud" surely You have heard the phrase. They graze eat , it goes into first stomach and comes back out they chew it again, and then it goes through second stomach where it is then made into waste for cow pie LUFF as Neil would say, then it is deposited in very loose sloppy cow pies everywhere,,LOL..Perhaps their digestive system weeds out the toxins and eliminates the high! Although That there is one mighty happy cow!!! LOL I love it!!
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On behalf of the bovine liberation movement we are warning you to desist this oppression of our bovine comrades or face the wrath of the Fighting Cows
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Hey Man !!
War is bad...peace is the way !!
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LOL YAYYYYYYYYYYYY! PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Stop portraying the masses as weak and ineffectual. Beware of the burger attack
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but when it went into the first stomach wouldn't it... no no wait... better question. how does it get from the first stomach back to their mouth and then into the second stomach? wouldn't it just go back to the first one and start some kind of continuous loop? nature is confusing sometimes
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but when it went into the first stomach wouldn't it... no no wait... better question. how does it get from the first stomach back to their mouth and then into the second stomach? wouldn't it just go back to the first one and start some kind of continuous loop? nature is confusing sometimes
Ok, Cattle have one stomach, with four compartments. They are the rumen, reticulum, omasum, and abomasum. So are we saying that the cows do not get high, because the "drug" would pass through one or more ot the compartments. Thus, in some way breaking down the "drug"?
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but when it went into the first stomach wouldn't it... no no wait... better question. how does it get from the first stomach back to their mouth and then into the second stomach? wouldn't it just go back to the first one and start some kind of continuous loop? nature is confusing sometimes
OK, Cattle have one stomach, with four compartments. They are the rumen, reticulum, osmium, and Abomasum. So are we saying that the cows do not get high, because the "drug" would pass through one or more Of the compartments. Thus, in some way breaking down the "drug"?
Thanks Paul I had always heard two stomachs Thanks for the correction.. 1 stomach 4 compartments, I had also heard that they kind of regurgitate their partially digested food and then chew it again , (cud) then it goes to apparently another chamber? Not another stomach..
So does it sort of work like a sieve each compartment, breaking down certain aspects of the food into different stages for redeposit? (so to speak)
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but when it went into the first stomach wouldn't it... no no wait... better question. how does it get from the first stomach back to their mouth and then into the second stomach? wouldn't it just go back to the first one and start some kind of continuous loop? nature is confusing sometimes
Ok, Cattle have one stomach, with four compartments. They are the rumen, reticulum, omasum, and abomasum. So are we saying that the cows do not get high, because the "drug" would pass through one or more ot the compartments. Thus, in some way breaking down the "drug"?
Thanks Paul I had always heard two stomachs Thanks for the correction.. 1 stomach 4 compartments, I had also heard that they kind of regurgitate their partialy digested food and then chew it again , (cud) then it goes to apparently another chamber? Not another stomach..
So does it sort of work like a sive each compartment, breaking down certain aspects of the food into different stages for redeposit? (so to speak)
well, i had heard many things...6 stomachs...4...7. Like meg said in another topic, you hear things and somewhat accept them as a truth. How they work, well i am not up on cows digestion. i have a hard enough time figuring my own out!
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This is the digestive system and this was taken from:
Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural affairs
Written by:Written by: Tom Hamilton - Beef Cattle Specialist/OMAF
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Monogastric (non-ruminant) animals (e.g. pigs, dogs, man) are not able to efficiently digest cellulose.
When ruminants consume forages, they take fairly large bites and swallow the material with a minimum of chewing. After eating, they stand or lie down to "chew their cud". This involves regurgitating boluses (masses) of forage up the esophagus and into the mouth, where it is re-chewed and then swallowed. This reduces the size of the forage particles and greatly increases the surface area available for microbial digestion.
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Digestive System
Cattle belong to a class of animals called ruminants. This group includes sheep, goats and deer. Ruminants have a digestive system which allows them to utilize roughages (e.g. hay, grass) as a major source of nutrients. These animals have a large (capacity up to 50 gal.), fluid filled digestive organ at the beginning of the digestive tract called the rumen. The rumen contains a large population of microbes (bacteria and protozoa). Much of the initial digestion of feed is done by microbes in the rumen.
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These microbes have the ability to break down cellulose and hemicellulose, which are main components of roughages. Rumen microbes also break down other components of the animal's diet such as protein and starch. The reticulum is a smaller organ which acts as a holding area for feed after it passes down the esophagus. The omasum is an organ which absorbs water from the digesta (mixture of feed and fluid) before it flows into the abomasum (true stomach). The animal's own digestive enzymes break down food in the abomasum and small intestine. Absorption of these nutrients occurs mainly through the small intestine
I think that this sort of helps..
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lol our sci. teacher Mr. Jostpile told us about y not to paint in an enclosed room...he said he did that once and his words were QUOTE! "we were painting and everything just seemed to get funnier and funnier." lol mr j is the funniest/coolest teacher ever
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It was actually varnishing, he and his friend were when the fumes made em high.
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ok that makes more sense. i'm guessing that calves don't do the same thing with the milk... that was going to be my next question
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Just thought I'd let you know that I'm having steak for dinner !!
...so I'll be having some cow in my tummy !!!!
...I though it might a MOOt point !!
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Just thought I'd let you know that I'm having steak for dinner !!
...so I'll be having some cow in my tummy !!!!
...I though it might a MOOt point !!
Wait for me I am coming for dinner..! What else can I bring..??