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Steve---Glad to see you are doing well. As Girlwind has mentioned, POIS is also just "The Tip of the Iceberg" for me also. My major concern is an anxiety condition that has not lifted in 22 months now. Sometimes I get quite depressed and dizzy. Orgasmic sexuality is my LEAST concern. Today I had a fabulous day as I was able to meditate far out on a jetty in the ocean for 2 hours. A squirrel was sunbathing next to me. HELLO GIRLWIND IF YOU READ THIS
What baffled me so, 18 months ago, on the POIS board was the complete unwillingness to consider chronic masturbation as as addiction
Three years ago I gave up being orgasmic and like the POIS BOYS, it helped enormously.Still the problem was not solved. When I stopped being sexual completely the problem disappeared.All the pills, powders, vitamins, teas, patches, shots and therapies avoid the only important question: If you're doing something that hurts you, why don't you stop?
Quote from: SteveD on 25/06/2010 06:40:56Three years ago I gave up being orgasmic and like the POIS BOYS, it helped enormously.Still the problem was not solved. When I stopped being sexual completely the problem disappeared.All the pills, powders, vitamins, teas, patches, shots and therapies avoid the only important question: If you're doing something that hurts you, why don't you stop? The "POIS BOYS" have also discovered that being a eunuch doesn't solve the problem either.We are sexual beings, given nature's gift of orgasm.Several of us have found wonderful solutions with "patches, pills, etc.", and on the verge of finding even better ones.Not to hide a problem, but to SOLVE a neurochemical/physiological problem, i.e., hormal imbalance, neurotransmitter deficiency and the like.
Quote from: demografx on 25/06/2010 18:29:57Quote from: SteveD on 25/06/2010 06:40:56Three years ago I gave up being orgasmic and like the POIS BOYS, it helped enormously.Still the problem was not solved. When I stopped being sexual completely the problem disappeared.All the pills, powders, vitamins, teas, patches, shots and therapies avoid the only important question: If you're doing something that hurts you, why don't you stop? The "POIS BOYS" have also discovered that being a eunuch doesn't solve the problem either.We are sexual beings, given nature's gift of orgasm.Several of us have found wonderful solutions with "patches, pills, etc.", and on the verge of finding even better ones.Not to hide a problem, but to SOLVE a neurochemical/physiological problem, i.e., hormal imbalance, neurotransmitter deficiency and the like.I believe sexuality and orgasm to be nature's (god's?) gift and don't intend to give up sex. POIS and other issues has slowed down the regularity of sex for me.I have successfully been down the sexual addiction recovery route too and it has helped in some ways but not with POIS. The aim there was to have an emotionally healthy sexual life which i believe i have. I have wondered if it is related to my POIS at times, perhaps from overindulging in 'O' frequency in my teens and early twenties (O's once a day on average). The condition may have been pre-existing and completely un-related to this however. The etiology seems complex and may be different for different people.Sex addiction, like CFS, may be related to POIS for some people, maybe not. The physical reasons for this really need researching and I have just contacted Dr Goldmeier in London (local to me) asking him for an appointment.
Quote from: badgerstripe on 19/01/2012 14:44:44Quote from: demografx on 25/06/2010 18:29:57Quote from: SteveD on 25/06/2010 06:40:56Three years ago I gave up being orgasmic and like the POIS BOYS, it helped enormously.Still the problem was not solved. When I stopped being sexual completely the problem disappeared.All the pills, powders, vitamins, teas, patches, shots and therapies avoid the only important question: If you're doing something that hurts you, why don't you stop? The "POIS BOYS" have also discovered that being a eunuch doesn't solve the problem either.We are sexual beings, given nature's gift of orgasm.Several of us have found wonderful solutions with "patches, pills, etc.", and on the verge of finding even better ones.Not to hide a problem, but to SOLVE a neurochemical/physiological problem, i.e., hormal imbalance, neurotransmitter deficiency and the like.I believe sexuality and orgasm to be nature's (god's?) gift and don't intend to give up sex. POIS and other issues has slowed down the regularity of sex for me.I have successfully been down the sexual addiction recovery route too and it has helped in some ways but not with POIS. The aim there was to have an emotionally healthy sexual life which i believe i have. I have wondered if it is related to my POIS at times, perhaps from overindulging in 'O' frequency in my teens and early twenties (O's once a day on average). The condition may have been pre-existing and completely un-related to this however. The etiology seems complex and may be different for different people.Sex addiction, like CFS, may be related to POIS for some people, maybe not. The physical reasons for this really need researching and I have just contacted Dr Goldmeier in London (local to me) asking him for an appointment.Sex can be a very beatiful and spiritually uplifting thing. I respect the fact you found a way to deal with the situation. Part of the acceptance philosophy is to accept that something has worked for others.Abstenance does not work for me. I get the nightly emission if I abstain for long, period. So why pay for not eating the beautiful fruit just if one had? Also histamines are at play here. With longer abstenance ysex drive increases, specially with enviornmental allergens such as spring, mold, etc. Then it becomes a inflamation issue of great proportions. If I do not clear my system I feel progressively weaker. So different things work for different people. newbielink:http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/Smileys/default/smiley.gif [nonactive] newbielink:http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/Smileys/default/cool.gif [nonactive]Sex is a beautiful thing. Agreed...God was having a fine day at the office when he/she invented sex...LOL!!!Wine is a beautiful thing , too...for most people. Some people are alcoholics though and wine is very bad for them.Sugar is very fun and sweet, but some people are food addicts and they are allergic to it. They feel 'pitifully and incomprehensibly demoralized" whenever they eat sugar. The addiction model, is infinitely more successful, for me, than the medication model that the POIS boys use. I am grateful to them for their interest in Waldinger's discoveries, but no one is successful at treatment over there. I care about successfully solving this problem. I do NOT care if it is the way that I want it to be solved. That is simply selfish, stupid and immature. What I do know is that complete abstinence solves the problem, so the question, for me, is how to accept this solution and learn to live happily and contentedly. I have learned to do that the last three years...and I have not had one trace of the phenomenally devastating effects of POIS that ruined my life for four decades. ;)Once again, my hat is off to the courage and strength of the POIS boys stick-to-it-ive-ness.Be careful with them though. Despite their claim to scientific objectivity, they become enraged when you don't agree with them...