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I have a question - does anyone's symptoms actually become worse as the days progress, until the day they finally disappear?
PRZ, thank you very much for posting this. It's a fascinating idea and we can all learn from this even though we might pursue different avenues.
I personally don't believe that dry orgasms are healthy at all! It's unnatural and might lead to serious undermined biological problems on the long run,,.,,,perhaps the only benefit for those who succeed is to avoid POIS ! Again that's purely my opinion....
Demografx : Thanks again for emails to scientists. I think you are right : brain scan is the only solution if Pois is caused by neurotransmitters. But can this current technology show deficiency/excess in different areas ? And what about receptors ?
Demo,Was your T low before using T-pacthes? And has it increased your sexual urges since using them? Are you aware of the possible long term side effects of using T-pacthes? Acne; bitter or strange taste in mouth; change in sex drive; fatigue; gum or mouth irritation; gum pain; gum tenderness or swelling; hair loss; headache.SEVERE side effects may occur when using Testosterone Patch: Severe allergic reactions (rash; hives; itching; difficulty breathing; tightness in the chest; swelling of the mouth, face, lips, or tongue); breast growth or pain; change in the size or shape of the testicles; dark urine or light-colored bowel movements; depression or mood changes; dizziness; gingivitis; interrupted breathing while sleeping; loss of appetite; nausea; painful or prolonged erection; stomach pain; swelling of the ankles or legs; urination problems; weight gain; yellowing of the skin or eyes.
Hello Z_oneCan you tell me why do you think so? Because I had the same belief and discovered that it was only social and religious conditioning, that made me believe anything besides ejaculation is UNNATURAL. It was just a prejudice. Anyway, I've never felt more healthy in my life and that's why I am quite confident it doesn't do any harm, though I can't guarantee this (didn't find any research).
Quote from: Z_one on 29/11/2009 13:55:26Demo,Was your T low before using T-pacthes? And has it increased your sexual urges since using them? Are you aware of the possible long term side effects of using T-pacthes? Acne; bitter or strange taste in mouth; change in sex drive; fatigue; gum or mouth irritation; gum pain; gum tenderness or swelling; hair loss; headache.SEVERE side effects may occur when using Testosterone Patch: Severe allergic reactions (rash; hives; itching; difficulty breathing; tightness in the chest; swelling of the mouth, face, lips, or tongue); breast growth or pain; change in the size or shape of the testicles; dark urine or light-colored bowel movements; depression or mood changes; dizziness; gingivitis; interrupted breathing while sleeping; loss of appetite; nausea; painful or prolonged erection; stomach pain; swelling of the ankles or legs; urination problems; weight gain; yellowing of the skin or eyes.My answer is "yes" to all 3 questions. I have three questions for you: (1) What is your source for the above info? and (2) what percentage of users at what dose? and (3) how many patients were in this study group?After one year with T-patches, me and my POIS are very happy. [] Working with one of the top endo's in the country at a world class multi-billion dollar university research facility.But thanks for your concerns!
Quote from: PRZ on 29/11/2009 16:01:13Hello Z_oneCan you tell me why do you think so? Because I had the same belief and discovered that it was only social and religious conditioning, that made me believe anything besides ejaculation is UNNATURAL. It was just a prejudice. Anyway, I've never felt more healthy in my life and that's why I am quite confident it doesn't do any harm, though I can't guarantee this (didn't find any research). 1) Because semen is suppose to go out and you're holding it back,,,,,2) By holding back semen you're inducing antagonist forces which will damage your prostate on the long run,,,,3) Forcing semen backwards puts strain on your body rather than relieving tension and therefore might be dangerous for people with heart diseases and high blood pressure....As you can see there is nothing religious nor social in the above and it's purely biological!.....which is why I think it is Unnatural! As to you feeling healthy that might simply be due to the fact that you are with this technique avoiding POIS symptoms or due to an anecdotal evidence.......again that's purely my opinion and at the end of the day... you're certainly free to practice what you believe might be good for you !
I was wondering ....how do you guys feel after exercising during POIS? Does it make your symptoms worse or do you feel better?
Quote from: Z_one on 29/11/2009 19:58:52I was wondering ....how do you guys feel after exercising during POIS? Does it make your symptoms worse or do you feel better?For me it seems that light exercises (stretching, Egoscue training, yoga, walking, lifting light weights, calisthenics...) are very helpful and get me out of the foggy state (at least to the extent I can work OK) but strenuous or aerobic exercises (running, bicycling, heavy workouts...) make me feel better immediately only to crash further down soon afterward. So I avoid strenuous exercises in POIS state. It feels good when I am out of POIS though.
1) Because semen is suppose to go out and you're holding it back,,,,,2) By holding back semen you're inducing antagonist forces which will damage your prostate on the long run,,,,3) Forcing semen backwards puts strain on your body rather than relieving tension and therefore might be dangerous for people with heart diseases and high blood pressure....As you can see there is nothing religious nor social in the above and it's purely biological!.....which is why I think it is Unnatural! As to you feeling healthy that might simply be due to the fact that you are with this technique avoiding POIS symptoms or due to an anecdotal evidence.......again that's purely my opinion and at the end of the day... you're certainly free to practice what you believe might be good for you !
you're very content and confident in what you're doing....so wishing you continuing success!
As to your two other questions....[what percentage of users have these side effects and at what dose? and how many patients were in this study group?], I have no idea but you can always try contacting the authors of the website.....[emphasis mine - demo]
SEVERE side effects may occur when using Testosterone Patch:
semen is suppose [sic] to go out