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General Science => Question of the Week => Topic started by: thedoc on 28/02/2012 15:48:41
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As the joke goes...if you cross a kangaroo with a sheep you get a wooly jumper. Is it now possible with modern techniques to cross different animals to make one completely new species?
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Vinny
Rochdale, Greater Manchester.
Asked by Vinny from Manchester
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We answered this question on the show...
We put this to Professor Martin Bobrow from Cambridge University and Veronica van Heyningen, Professor of Genetics at Edinburgh University:
Martin - I think it’s mind blowing that one can take a gene which performs a [img float=right]/forum/copies/RTEmagicC_Flock_of_sheep_01.jpg.jpg[/img]certain function in yeast and put it into a human cell and it still works. However, does that mean that we can make new species? I think the answer to that probably at the moment is not by quite a long shot.
Veronica - Combining eggs and sperm from different species very rarely works except for closely related species like horse and donkey which can mate together and form a novel hybrid animal known as a mule. Mules can develop to birth and survive to adulthood, but they are not fertile. The mixed horse and donkey chromosomes can't produce viable eggs and sperm. A sheep cannot be crossed to the kangaroo because even if we had sperm and eggs available, we would not succeed in making hybrid animals by in vitro fertilisation or IVF because development requires two sets of similar parental genes. The genes from sheep cannot work with genes from a kangaroo to drive development producing hybrid sheegaroos and kangareeps.
Hannah - Veronica and Martin discussed other ways that we can combine and tweak genes, including transferring one or two genes from humans into another species, and a line of goats have recently been created in this way to help patients who can't produce their own anti-coagulant.
There are also chimeras where stem cells from different species are mixed. For example, there's a mouse with human liver cells and we hope that we can use this mouse to help evaluate the safety of drugs as the liver plays such an important role in drug metabolism. But Martin emphasises...
Martin - There are lots of examples of that sort, but all of those mice look like mice and all of those goats look like goats, and none of them produce what you'd need for it to be a new species. That is, something which has a distinctive appearance and which can continue breeding in a way that you have created something that propagates itself. Even the natural species mixtures, such as mules, there are zebra-horse crosses, and lion-tiger crosses, but they're sterile. They do look pretty intermediate, but they don't breed. So we haven’t gotten to the point of creating new species yet.
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First, Dolly the Sheep (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolly_(sheep)), now what kind of abomination is planned?
There is current research in genetically modifying pigs for xenotransplantation (http://genome.wellcome.ac.uk/doc_WTD020910.html), although it appears as if much of the research is to knock out porcine antigens, rather than expressing human antigens.
There have also been experiments to express spider silk proteins in goats milk. (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/CuttingEdge/spinning-tough-spider-silk-goat-milk/story?id=98095)
It is quite likely that Woolly Mammoths will be cloned (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57340422/cloning-of-woolly-mammoths-no-longer-sci-fi/) in the next few decades or perhaps sooner (http://news.discovery.com/animals/woolly-mammoth-cloned-111205.html). The task will likely at least pattern the woolly mammoth chromosomes based on living elephant chromosomes.
It is likely that both kangaroo fur, and sheep's wool would involve a complex set of several genes. However, if there was a market for the product, it is possible that it could be done. I could foresee either choosing to mix genes of wool producing animals (llamas, alpacas, and sheep), or, perhaps specifically breeding better cold (or heat) tolerant livestock by altering the fur producing genes.
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is it possible to use cross species genetics on humans??
-anonymous