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General Science => General Science => Topic started by: neilep on 20/06/2006 23:42:11
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Was there ever an original horse where this particular measuring nomenclature of power was assigned to ?
Should it be updated ?.....
If we used bovines to race...would it be Cow Power ? [:)]
Men are the same as women, just inside out !
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower
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History of the term "horsepower"
The term "horsepower" was invented by James Watt to help market his improved steam engine. He had previously agreed to take royalties of one third of the savings in coal from the older Newcomen steam engines[5]. This royalty scheme did not work with customers who did not have existing steam engines but used horses instead. Watt determined that a horse could turn a mill wheel 144 times in an hour (or 2.4 times a minute). The wheel was 12 feet in radius, thus in a minute the horse travelled 2.4 × 2#960; × 12 feet. Watt judged that the horse could pull with a force of 180 pounds (just assuming that the measurements of mass were equivalent to measurements of force in pounds-force, which were not well-defined units at the time). So:
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This was rounded to an even 33,000 ft·lbf/min
Others recount that Watt determined that a pony could lift an average 220 pounds 100 feet (30 m) per minute over a four-hour working shift. Watt then judged a horse was 50% more powerful than a pony and thus arrived at the 33,000 ft·lbf/min figure.
Engineering in History recounts that John Smeaton initially estimated that a horse could produce 22,916 foot-pounds per minute. John Desaguliers increased that to 27,500 foot-pounds per minute. "Watt found by experiment in 1782 that a 'brewery horse' was able to produce 32,400 foot-pounds per minute". James Watt and Matthew Boulton standardized that figure at 33,000 the next year.
Put into perspective, a healthy human can sustain about 0.1 horsepower, and trained athletes can manage up to about 0.3 horsepower for a period of several hours. Most observers familiar with horses and their capabilities estimate that Watt was either a bit optimistic or intended to underpromise and overdeliver; few horses can maintain that effort for long. Regardless, comparison to a horse proved to be an enduring marketing tool.
Horsepower from a horse
R. D. Stevenson and R. J. Wasserzug published an article in Nature 364, 195-195 (15 Jul 1993) calculating the upper limit to an animals power output. The peak power over a few seconds has been measured to be as high as 14.9 Hp. However, for longer periods an average horse produces less than one horsepower.
George
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THANK YOU GEORGE,
So this is the recognised international standard then....ta....it's 230 odd years old.....I wonder what the results would be if done today...probably completely different
Men are the same as women, just inside out !
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The modern equivalent to the horsepower is, ironically, the Watt (or Kilowatt if measured in their thousands)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower
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- Mechanical horsepower — 0.74569987158227022 kW (33,000 ft·lbf per minute)
- Metric horsepower — 0.73549875 kW
- Electrical horsepower — 0.746 kW
- Boiler horsepower — 9.8095 kW
George