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I think that faith cannot come only from logic
The existence of these mathematical equations implies the existence of a personal, conscious and intelligent Creator.
Such a view of biological processes does not allow to account for the existence of consciousness, which existence implies then the presence in man of an unphysical element.
Doesn't this all fall down in the first paragraph?
Now it is such a bizarrely impossible coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the nonexistence of God. The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing." "But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.""Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't though of that" and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
QuoteNow it is such a bizarrely impossible coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the nonexistence of God. The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing." "But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.""Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't though of that" and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
Surely, by God entering into this discourse he is proving his existence.
You do not have faith in God, you have faith in thoses who told you to have faith in God.
Quote from: Don_1 on 04/02/2009 15:38:13You do not have faith in God, you have faith in thoses who told you to have faith in God.thoses ? Looks like the writing of a certain Swede I know []
Seems Nebukanezer or Nebakanezer is right. Poor bloke didn't know how to spell his own name!
Seems Nebukanezer or Nebakanezer is right. Poor bloke didn't know how to spell his own name!Perhaps he should have changed it to Nebfoganezer.