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Do aliens have superior technology?
The transformation of a chimp/ape species to pre-man and then finally to man appears to be the result of alien technology. In my novel “Futureoids” I explored how Gan and Raz were able to implant the seeds and eggs of man and woman into a chimp/ape species to produce man and woman as offspring. They then stayed with them until a human tribe was formed. In the end they flew into the sun to leave no traces of them.
Can we develop humanoids to transmit man to other planets? The distances are so far that you must travel huge distances and keep the eggs frozen for thousands of years. This may be possible as long as the Futureoids can rebuild themselves along the way.
The aliens that visit planet Earth are a different breed. They basically are higher man from a higher light speed coexisting universe. Their technology is superior because it is much easier for a higher light speed entity to move downward to our light speed.
In general Einstein’s E=MC^2 formula shows us that for the same amount of energy a spaceship of 10C has only 1/100 times the mass of the same spaceship here. When we move upward to 100C, the mass of the spaceship is 1/10,000 times our mass. Thus the aliens and their spaceship are more energy and less mass. This enables them to reproduce themselves at our light speed much easier.
The transformation does not require them to produce protons and electrons as we have. All they have to do is transform their energy into compatible energy. This enables them to see us and to operate upon our chimp/Ape species to produce man and then stay around and visit us from time to time. Throughout history they will appear to guide us.
The higher man aliens are not evil entities. They are higher forms of us and can enter our bodies and take over some of us. They have the ability to exist in their light speed universe and then visit us and guide us. It may be possible that they acted to aid the formation of the religions of man. Some of the greatest scientists may have been taken over by the aliens. They can just enter us at any time and control our minds if they so choose. Alternately they can appear before us and provide us with data to guide us.
Many people have had such encounters. Some think that the encounters came from God. This is possible but an angel of God and a higher man alien would appear the same to the person having the encounter.
I do not believe we can bring ourselves upward in light speed. Our proton/electron structure is too massive. It is possible that there are coexisting universes of lower and lower light speeds but we have no ability to move downward. Thus we are stuck at this more physical light speed. Of course any of us can be reproduced in their light speed energy. Thus some of us in death can be taken aboard a spaceship and brought into a higher world. Most likely the transformation will occur before death and the result will be physical death of the body but future life of the duplicate in higher light speed energy.
The multi-light-speed universe is rather interesting. It allows for us to exist beyond death and be brought into higher worlds.
It is also possible for aliens to enter a woman and convert her eggs into a fetus. This would cause a virgin birth and the alien would stay upon this Earth as a physical/alien being. It would have superior healing powers due to its dual energy structure. People might think that these people were man-Gods but all they are combinations of higher man within a light speed C body.
Thus some of us actually were born upon a higher world at higher light speed. Then they were put inside a forming fetus or created a new fetus from the mother alone. We may believe that we are free of the aliens because they tend to keep secret. Yet they will impregnate and harvest some of us.
We dream of traveling the stars but a spaceship which reaches above 0.2C starts to become so distorted that the human body will tend to perish. As soon as we move past 0.5C, the spaceship will self-destruct. Thus we are stuck here on planet Earth but the aliens do not suffer these problems.
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There are two types of aliens: those who know we exist, and those who don't.
Clearly those who do, have superior technology because we don't know about them.
So the question is why would a superior being get involved with us? The answer can only be idle curiosity, or for food. There's little evidence of humans being harvested, and all the accounts of idle curiosity seem to involve anal probes.
Now if you make contact with an alien civilisation, presumably you want to communicate with them, and as a first guess you would assume that they use a similar organ to yourself for communication. Therefore Donald T Rump is an alien - the clue is in the name, and the quality what he says.
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So the question is why would a superior being get involved with us?
Now if you make contact with an alien civilisation, presumably you want to communicate with them, and as a first guess you would assume that they use a similar organ to yourself for communication.
The answer is necessity. We are necessary for the survival of the aliens. We have to be harvested to replenish them. They are very long life entities but over time it becomes harder and harder for them to reproduce. They needs us and duplicate us in their light speed energy. Those who have been grabbed and studied must have viable bodies for duplication. Not everyone can be duplicated. they need quality people both physically and morally. Then they will duplicate them so that a person lives upon this Earth and the duplicate moves to another world.
They also are compelled to bring us to a higher moral level so that future man here will be able to be harvested. Sometimes they merely set up a planet and study it. the harvest comes later.
They are not trying to eat us. they want us to become them.They are superior to us but they will perish without us.
They speak to us but from their mind to our mind. They can transmit pictures into our brain directly and not through our eyes. Thus we hear them in our brain and see them in our brain. If they appear before us, we can put our hand through their bodies. They are soft energy. Yet they can control our minds and stop or breathing if they so choose. thus we are forced to obey them, yet they mean us no harm.
They have fantastic spaceships that to our eyes appear like ordinary craft. Yet they can penetrate the ground without any problem. then they can leave their craft and travel among us. Most of the time they tend to be invisible. However they can control our vision so that they appear similar to us. they have superior minds and superior knowledge. they are fantastic creatures. they are our friends but we fear them.
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Keep taking the tablets.
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Keep taking the tablets.
I should have taken them long ago in 1981 but I chose to suffer it out. So I suffer dreams while asleep and dreams while awake and encounters with entities. Then there are the flashbacks. the most scary experience is when I was put into a trance and somehow my mind was put into the mind of an alien and I was taken aboard his spaceship. then I went on an incredible ride which was enjoyable. Later my mind was returned to my body. thus the alien was able to take data from my mind and insert in in himself and then later return this data to my own mind with fresh data.
Was it true? Was it a dream? Why me? I am always half inclined to look at my experiences from a religious perspective or an alien perspective or the alternate of pure insanity. All I know is that I had such experiences since childhood. So I have flashbacks to a time when I lived upon another world. And I was educated differently.
Would pills have helped me? Would they have stopped the flashbacks? Perhaps they would have calmed me but there is no cure for what I experienced. It is just something I have had to live with and wonder about. Anyway at 77 years I only have to suffer this condition for a few more years.
So I study what I remember from my long past. I try my best to invalidate my experiences. Yet I have another planet to go after I die. So I must suffer these problems over and over again. I would wish that some magic pills could help me but this is my fate and there is nothing I can do about it. I wish I could truly die and be free but I will be born again and no pills can cure that.
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Do aliens have superior technology?
That obviously depends on which aliens that you're talking about.
The transformation of a chimp/ape species to pre-man and then finally to man appears to be the result of alien technology.
Not it doesn't. First off you have your evolution wrong. The theory of evolution asserts that man did not evolve from "chimp/ape". That's a very common misconception. Man and chimp/ape evolved from a common species. In the second place there is absolutely no reason or evidence to suggest that it was a result of alien technology. Everything about it dictates that we evolved in the exact same way that other species evolved from a different species.
In my novel “Futureoids” I explored how Gan and Raz were able to implant the seeds and eggs of man and woman into a chimp/ape species to produce man and woman as offspring.
Congratulations on publishing your new novel. I admire people who have the imagination and writing ability to write such a work. Well done sir! :)
They then stayed with them until a human tribe was formed. In the end they flew into the sun to leave no traces of them.
Where were they? On Earth in the future or in a different planet in a different star system? Did they kill themselves in the process of flying into the Sun or was this at the end of their lives so this is the way they chose to die? If it was the latter then why would they fly into the Sun? Is it because it'd take less energy to do it? It s There are other ways not to leave no trace such as aiming the ship out into interstellar space (ISP). ISP is so vast that it'd be a virtual impossibility to find a spacecraft by accident. I'm just curious, that's all.
Can we develop humanoids to transmit man to other planets?
I'm not clear on what a humanoid is. You have to keep in mind that in real life its not possible for a chimp/ape to give birth to a human. During the pregnancy the human child has to live on the parents biological system and that means having the same blood. Since humans don't have the same blood as chimps/apes it doesn't work. And that's just blood. All the other metabolic processes are different in that they use different proteins and enzymes.
I'll ask Cheryl to poke her nose into this thread since she's a biologist. I'm not a biologist, I'm a physicist so I'm not certain about what I just said.
The distances are so far that you must travel huge distances and keep the eggs frozen for thousands of years. This may be possible as long as the Futureoids can rebuild themselves along the way.
The aliens that visit planet Earth are a different breed. They basically are higher man from a higher light speed coexisting universe. Their technology is superior because it is much easier for a higher light speed entity to move downward to our light speed.
It's conceivable that in the future man will be able to travel at speeds faster than the speed of light. If it's possible then the engine won't operate on the same principles that rocket engines work under. They'll work on manipulating spacetime. There is something called the Alcubierre Drive which might be able to accomplish this scenario. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive
The problems that have to be overcome right now to accomplish this feat of engineering are (1) the drive requires the use of exotic matter. In this case matter having a negative energy density and (2) a method needs to be devised to control the drive. Spacetime outside the warp bubble is causally disconnected from that within. That's a serious problem to overcome.
I myself have reservations which I'm going to investigate someday when I've learned quantum field theory and have a full command of particle physics. I know particle physics somewhat now but not as well as a professional particle physicist.
In general Einstein’s E=MC^2 formula shows us that for the same amount of energy a spaceship of 10C ...
What does that mean? I.e. what did you mean when you wrote "a spaceship of 10C"? What does "10C" represent? I know its ten times the speed of light but are you speaking of energy of a spaceship moving at v = 10c? If so then relativity can't handle that since it's impossible for any object to move that fast if it once moved at speeds less than the speed of light. There are things called tachyons which are defined as any object or particle which always moves faster than the speed of light.
has only 1/100 times the mass of the same spaceship here. When we move upward to 100C, the mass of the spaceship is 1/10,000 times our mass. Thus the aliens and their spaceship are more energy and less mass. This enables them to reproduce themselves at our light speed much easier.
You're assumptions are flawed. The expression E = mc2 was derived using Maxwell's Theory of Electrodynamics and Special Relativity. If aliens can move at speeds faster than c then it depends on how that's accomplished as to whether E = mc2 for those aliens. You can't just change one thing in physics and expect everything else to remain the same.
I'm stopping here because the rest isn't really physics.
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Do aliens have superior technology?
That obviously depends on which aliens that you're talking about.
GG response to PmbPhy
GG: The transformation of a chimp/ape species to pre-man and then finally to man appears to be the result of alien technology.
PMB: Not it doesn't. First off you have your evolution wrong. The theory of evolution asserts that man did not evolve from "chimp/ape". That's a very common misconception. Man and chimp/ape evolved from a common species. In the second place there is absolutely no reason or evidence to suggest that it was a result of alien technology. Everything about it dictates that we evolved in the exact same way that other species evolved from a different species.
GG: In my book I call it a Chimp/Species type species. I do not know the exact path. So then it would have had to be the common species.
As far as Alien technology is concerned, that is a possibility but I believe in spiritual feedback. We evolved to be man because the memory of man always exists in a single light speed universe but especially in a multi-light-speed universe. The Darwinian process is a crude but effective process but the driving force is the feedback process which is quite accurate to produce the end product.
Pmb:PhyCongratulations on publishing your new novel. I admire people who have the imagination and writing ability to write such a work. Well done sir! :)
GG: Futureoids was only a fun book. My books are Physics and Philosophical such as “Cosmic Reincarnation”
GG: They then stayed with them until a human tribe was formed. In the end they flew into the sun to leave no traces of them.
PmbPhy: :Where were they? On Earth in the future or in a different planet in a different star system? Did they kill themselves in the process of flying into the Sun or was this at the end of their lives so this is the way they chose to die? If it was the latter then why would they fly into the Sun? Is it because it'd take less energy to do it? It s There are other ways not to leave no trace such as aiming the ship out into interstellar space (ISP). ISP is so vast that it'd be a virtual impossibility to find a spacecraft by accident. I'm just curious, that's all.
GG: “The novel takes place upon this Earth in the future as flesh eating bacteria is destroying mankind. The robots were programmed to insure no trace of them would exist as man was established upon several viable planets which were previously found. Flying into the sun was a simple way of destroying all trace of the spaceship. We have no trace upon this Earth and thus prior Futureoids could have flown into our sun.
Pmbphy: Can we develop humanoids to transmit man to other planets?
I'm not clear on what a humanoid is.
GG: Gan and Raz are robots with a simulated brain and blood system. They are built to last 10,000 years. They are surrounded by ordinary robots who have spare parts to rebuild themselves. Gan and Raz have computer brains and have simulated feelings. So they are almost human like. They are in control of the mission to bring mankind to new Earths. Yet the Captain is an ordinary robot and obeys Gan an Raz but he has the power to override them if they disobey the instructions they were given upon the Earth.
For example Gan and Raz wanted to keep the Chimp/Ape type species alive after the birth of the humans, but the Captain robot destroyed them all. Gan and Raz were sad.
PMBPHY: You have to keep in mind that in real life its not possible for a chimp/ape to give birth to a human. During the pregnancy the human child has to live on the parents biological system and that means having the same blood. Since humans don't have the same blood as chimps/apes it doesn't work. And that's just blood. All the other metabolic processes are different in that they use different proteins and enzymes.
GG: It may very well be that the real Aliens did this in stages over thousands of years. So slowly they molded the original Chimp/Ape pre-man creatures. Alternately for the spiritual reincarnation process, the image of man slowly drove the production of man. I am more inclined to believe the feedback process driving the Darwinian process in order to perfect man and life upon this Earth.
PMBPHY:I'll ask Cheryl to poke her nose into this thread since she's a biologist. I'm not a biologist, I'm a physicist so I'm not certain about what I just said.
GG: The novel starts in the year 20,052 and perhaps by that time they will have machines that could be attached to a female of another species to insure she can keep the human child in her body. The poor creature would not be free and would be enslaved to the humanoids in their spaceship. Right now we do not have such technology but biology will certainly advance quite a lot by then. Note we do drink cows milk and eat chickens so foodwise we are compatible with other species. Anyway it would be good to see what Cheryl has to say.
GG: The distances are so far that you must travel huge distances and keep the eggs frozen for thousands of years. This may be possible as long as the Futureoids can rebuild themselves along the way.
The aliens that visit planet Earth are a different breed. They basically are higher man from a higher light speed coexisting universe. Their technology is superior because it is much easier for a higher light speed entity to move downward to our light speed.
PMBPhy: It's conceivable that in the future man will be able to travel at speeds faster than the speed of light. If it's possible then the engine won't operate on the same principles that rocket engines work under. They'll work on manipulating spacetime. There is something called the Alcubierre Drive which might be able to accomplish this scenario.
The problems that have to be overcome right now to accomplish this feat of engineering are (1) the drive requires the use of exotic matter. In this case matter having a negative energy density and (2) a method needs to be devised to control the drive. Spacetime outside the warp bubble is causally disconnected from that within. That's a serious problem to overcome.
GG: The main problem is the Doppler effect. Unfortunately unless you work for a Defense company as I did, there are regular libraries and secret libraries. I was able to study the Doppler reports of leading universities over 40 years ago. The studies were an effort to prove the Doppler effects which the writers believed in. since the speeds measured were so low as compared to the speed of light, the readings were within the margin of error but the authors felt the evidence was sufficient to prove their equations. Now I would imagine that since that time we have even better data.
The Doppler Effect as I use the shortened equations in my “The Gravitational Wave and the Dot-Wave Theory” indicate that the frontal mass of a moving object is larger than the rearward mass and the root mean square is Einstein’s mass formula. In addition the frontal length is smaller and the rearward length is larger. This severe distortion will kill anyone traveling beyond a speed of 0.2C. the spaceship itself will self destruct beyond 0.5C. The elementary particles can travel at C, but a spaceship can’t. In Futureoids I limit my speed to around 0.2C so it takes a long time to travel to an area of space time where they can translate to another area with viable planets.
PMBPHY: I myself have reservations which I'm going to investigate someday when I've learned quantum field theory and have a full command of particle physics. I know particle physics somewhat now but not as well as a professional particle physicist.
GG: I am still learning new things every day.
GG: In general Einstein’s E=MC^2 formula shows us that for the same amount of energy a spaceship of 10C ...
PMBPHY:What does that mean? I.e. what did you mean when you wrote "a spaceship of 10C"? What does "10C" represent? I know its ten times the speed of light but are you speaking of energy of a spaceship moving at v = 10c? If so then relativity can't handle that since it's impossible for any object to move that fast if it once moved at speeds less than the speed of light. There are things called tachyons which are defined as any object or particle which always moves faster than the speed of light.
GG: In my multi-light-speed theory, we exist in a universe comprising of different universes operating at different light speed such as C, 2C, 4C, 8C, etc. These forms planes and in general are separated from each other. However dark energy, dark matter of all light speeds exist where we are.
A spaceship from a 10C universe will be able to travel at perhaps 5C. If you go up to a 10,000C universe you will be able to travel at about 5,000C. Since these spaceships are mostly energy, they can readily penetrate our Earth and exist below the surface of our Earth. The Aliens can come out and interact with us. They will appear like holograms and we can put our hands through them. Then can enter our bodies and control our inner minds. Then they can leave us.
The question I always have is whether my encounters were with Angels of God, Aliens, or merely the result of mind control. And of course hallucinations are also possible. It is comforting to me to believe that at times in my life I merely had periods of hallucinations but the interactions with the Aliens or Religious spirits are difficult for me to discount. For example I asked my visitor who walked through my basement wall one night.
“ How can you find truth?” He said “Deny everything until you can no longer deny it”. So to get rid of my visitor I said “I am hallucinating and you do not exist”. He encased me in a force field. I could not move or breathe. It felt like I was inside glass. My heart raced faster and faster. I only had a few more seconds to live. In my mind I said “I yield the point”. He released me and I fell to the ground and blood came out of me. I was terrified and he left me for that night.
The next night he reappeared. I threatened suicide if he would not leave me alone. He said “You shall not die”. These words were the most horrible to me since I could not escape him. He demanded that I educate myself. After many more days of encounters he left me. Yet when he left he radiated me and I felt as if I was glowing for several days. So since 1981 I devoted my space time to study religion, philosophy, and physics.
When I was a child I had no problem with these encounters. But as an adult I wanted to be free of them. So I am only left with the three possibilities, spiritual, alien, or periods of insanity. I like periods of insanity because I can then be an atheist. But no matter how hard I study and contemplate I am always brought back to the encounters and the conversations through my mind with my strange visitor who sometimes appears to look like an ancient Rabbi.
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GG response to PmbPhy
What does "GG" mean?
Let me tell you a little about myself, Jerry. When I see a post which appears as long as the one you just posted I choose not to read it. It's not because I don't think that you have something interesting to say. It's because I have a difficult time concentrating nowadays with responses that long. I'd rather spend that time and energy reading a text or an interesting physics article.
I can make some recommendations if you'd like? Space it out like the way I responded to your post by using the quote HTML braces. It makes it much easier to read.
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GG response to PmbPhy
What does "GG" mean?
Let me tell you a little about myself, Jerry. When I see a post which appears as long as the one you just posted I choose not to read it. It's not because I don't think that you have something interesting to say. It's because I have a difficult time concentrating nowadays with responses that long. I'd rather spend that time and energy reading a text or an interesting physics article.
I can make some recommendations if you'd like? Space it out like the way I responded to your post by using the quote HTML braces. It makes it much easier to read.
GG is my name Gerald Grushow which is found by looking up jerrygg38.
For the long post I put it on word and then add GG and PmbPhy to show who said what. If I tried to type it out with brackets it would never work on word easily. Is there any way you can bracket things and then put it on word? If I did not use word slight errors destroy my typing rapidly and I could never do it. Thanks for the comments. I sent you a message.