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Title: How come you can't tickle yourself?
Post by: Simulated on 17/08/2007 01:13:07
People say that you know its coming. I don't beileve that because well I know its coming if someone else tickles me. This has always been bothering me. Well I guess that's it on this one.

Thanks Sim!

p.s. I love this section!
Title: How come you can't tickle yourself?
Post by: paul.fr on 17/08/2007 07:40:22
Ryan. i have a feeling that Neil has already asked this, don't ask me why, it's justa hunch.

Anyway, to answer your question. I think the reason someone else can tickle you is because you don't expect it, if you try to tickle yourself you know what coming and expected. This does not work, i know the part of the brain responsible is the cerebellum. But don't ask me why.

Hold on, i "know" why. It's because of the sensation and expectations mentioned above.

I think someone else may come back with an answer that makes more sense, i am having trouble making sense lately.
Title: How come you can't tickle yourself?
Post by: Simulated on 17/08/2007 13:00:58
Its OK Paul. I think I got it. And I'll go search the forum.
Title: How come you can't tickle yourself?
Post by: Simulated on 17/08/2007 13:04:24
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=1192.0 is the closest thing I can find. Not exactly how come, but more of it only happens with socialization?
Title: How come you can't tickle yourself?
Post by: paul.fr on 17/08/2007 13:22:25
Sorry i did not make too much sense, Ryan. Glad you could understand what i was trying to say, you did well. I even struggle to know what the heck i'm talking about at times.

It was just a wild guess, that Neil would have asked a similar question. He is the question master, afterall. (insert wink smiley)
Title: How come you can't tickle yourself?
Post by: Simulated on 17/08/2007 13:58:36
(insert wink smiley) haha.

Yeah I understand it, probably because I talk like that most the time.

Yeppers that's Neil!
Title: How come you can't tickle yourself?
Post by: paul.fr on 17/08/2007 14:11:51
Ryan,

I went looking and found this answer:

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Most of us have a ticklish spot somewhere on our bodies, and it is usually pretty easy to find. For some it's just above the knee, for others it's the back of the neck, and some of us go into fits of laughter if someone grabs our sides. Laughing when another person tickles you is a natural reaction. Scientists have discovered that the feeling experienced when we are tickled causes us to panic and is a natural defense to little creepy crawlers like spiders and bugs. Slight tickles from insects can send a chill through your body letting you know something is crawling on you.
That same ticklish feeling sends us into a state of panic and elicits a response of uncontrollable laughter if a person tickles us. It's the moment that you least expect to be tickled and are that causes you to feel extremely uneasy and panicked, which leads to the most intense ticklish feeling. Even if you do know that you are about to be tickled, the fear and unease of someone touching and possibly hurting you causes you to laugh. Some people are so ticklish that they begin laughing even before they are touched.

So, if someone else's touch can tickle us, why can't we tickle ourselves? Much of the explanation for this question is still unknown, but research has shown that the brain is trained to know what to feel when a person moves or performs any function. We aren't aware of a lot of the sensations generated by our movements. For example, you probably don't pay much attention to your vocal cords when you speak. For the same reason, we can't tickle ourselves. If we grab our sides in an attempt to tickle ourselves, our brain anticipates this contact from the hands and prepares itself for it. By taking away the feeling of unease and panic, the body no longer responds the same as it would if someone else were to tickle us.

Brain scientists at the University College London have pinpointed the cerebellum as the part of the brain that prevents us from self-tickling. The cerebellum is the region located at the base of the brain that monitors our movements. It can distinguish expected sensations from unexpected sensations. An expected sensation would be the amount of pressure your fingers apply to your keyboard while typing. An unexpected sensation would be someone sneaking up behind you and tapping you on the shoulder. While the brain discards the sensation of typing, it pays a lot of attention to someone tapping on your shoulder. The difference in reactions from expected to unexpected is a built-in response that probably developed in early human history to detect predators.

Although we are not able to tickle ourselves unassisted, there is a way to trick the brain by using a robot tickler. That's right. With all of the know-how of science and technology, a robot has been designed to allow people to tickle themselves. The same British scientists mentioned above have designed a machine that enables you to tickle yourself by remote control. To use the machine, a person lies on their back with their eyes shut. The robot is located near the person with a piece of soft foam attached to a plastic rod that is controlled by a remote control joystick. When the person activates the rod, the robot will react after a short delay. Even with delays as short as a fifth of a second from the time the person activates the rod until the robot tickled the person's hand, subjects have described the sensation as the same as another person tickling them. So, in a sense, you could tickle yourself with a robotic assistant.

Obviously not written by me, the long words and making sense part sort of give it away!
(insert blush smiley)
Title: How come you can't tickle yourself?
Post by: Simulated on 17/08/2007 14:20:51
Thanks Paul!!

(insert blush smiley) haha