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Title: Co-joined twins
Post by: Alan McDougall on 27/06/2008 07:45:53
Hi,

Do co-joined twins pay for one or two tickets when going to the movies?

Alan
Title: Co-joined twins
Post by: JimBob on 28/06/2008 00:06:25
It depends upon whether they bring a beaver for the beaver-baiting that occurs before the movie.
Title: Co-joined twins
Post by: paul.fr on 28/06/2008 00:51:53
depends, they may just pay less than conjoined twins...
Title: Co-joined twins
Post by: Alan McDougall on 28/06/2008 07:12:47
 
I restate the obvious with the missing "N" included

Hi,

Do conjoined twins pay for one or two tickets when going to the movies?

Alan
Title: Co-joined twins
Post by: Karen W. on 28/06/2008 07:20:44
Depends are they two heads two bodies Two heads one body,either way,If two bottoms two seats two tickets eh! two different heads watching shared by a single body.. Yikes complicated...
Title: Co-joined twins
Post by: Alan McDougall on 28/06/2008 07:27:53
I was recent watching a TV documentary on two delightful conjoined twins they live in the USA. They have two heads and share the same body. Lovely bright delightful little girls age about ten. I will try to find them on the net.

Thus my serious question!!

Regards

Alan
Title: Co-joined twins
Post by: Alan McDougall on 28/06/2008 07:36:48
Contents
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    * 1 Biography
          o 1.1 Media appearances
    * 2 Adulthood
    * 3 Inventory of organ distribution
    * 4 Filmography
    * 5 References

[edit] Biography

Abigail and Brittany Hensel's parents are Patty (a registered nurse) and Mike Hensel (a carpenter and landscaper). The twins have a younger brother named Dakota (Koty) and a younger sister named Morgan. Brittany's head is about 15 degrees laterally outward, while Abby's head tilts laterally outward about 5 degrees, causing Brittany to appear to be of slightly less stature. They were raised in New Germany, Minnesota and attend Lutheran High School affiliated with the Missouri Synod in Mayer, Minnesota. At age 12, they underwent surgery at Gillette Children's Specialty Healthcare to correct scoliosis and to expand their chest cavity to prevent future difficulties with breathing.[1]

Each of the twins manages one side of their conjoined body and they are uncannily ambidextrous and coordinated in both their arms and legs when both hands or both legs are required. By coordinating their efforts, they are able to walk, run and ride a bicycle normally — all tasks that they learned at a normal speed. They each write with their corresponding hand. They can together type on a computer keyboard at a normal speed. Their sense of touch is partitioned each to their own body half which shades off at the midsagittal plane such that there is a small amount of overlap at their midline. They enjoy hobbies and sports including volleyball, kickball, swimming, basketball, and cycling. They also play the piano and are avid computer users. They enjoy softball, digital photography, the internet, social networking, and talking on the telephone. When they go to the cinema, they pay for two tickets.[2]

[edit] Media appearances

In April 1996, they appeared in Joined for Life, a documentary produced by Advanced Medical, distributed on the Discovery Health Channel. They also appeared on The Oprah Winfrey Show on April 8 and April 29, 1996. In April 1996, the twins were featured on the cover of Life under the caption "One Body, Two Souls", and their daily lifestyle was depicted in the corresponding article titled The Hensels' Summer. Life followed up with another story in September 1998. In 2003, an updated story of them at age 11 (filmed in 2001) was published in Time and again in Life. They appeared in a follow-up documentary on The Learning Channel on December 17, 2006 filmed around the time of their 16th birthday, in which they discuss dealing with puberty and getting their driver's licenses. In the summer of 2006 they had a holiday in Texas at the home of a family whose dicephalus twin girls had died at a few hours old.[3][4][5][6][7][8][9]

[edit] Adulthood

They both successfully passed their driver's license exam, both the written and driving tests. They had to take the tests twice, once for each twin. Abby controls the pedals, radio, heat, defogger etc., Brittany controls the turn signal and lights and together they control the steering wheel. They are both on track to graduate in 2008.

In conversation, they are clearly distinct persons, with distinct likes and dislikes. Despite sharing a body, the twins preferences in food, clothing color, etc. differ. Some of their clothes are altered by their seamstress so that they have two separate necklines in order to emphasize their individuality. They negotiate what they will wear each day. They will usually have separate meals, but sometimes will share a single meal for the sake of convenience (e.g., each takes a bite of the same hamburger). Abigail is better at math and Brittany better at spelling. For tasks such as responding to e-mail, they type and respond as one, anticipating each other’s feelings with little verbal communication between them. In such cases as the latter, their choice of grammatical person is to use the first person singular out of habit when they agree, but when their responses do differ, they use their names in the third person singular.

Their continued good health is of some concern because only four known sets of conjoined twins who share an undivided torso and two legs have ever survived into adulthood, and most have congenital heart defects or other organ anomalies. None have shown up in the Hensels' case. They have so far had no desire to make themselves available for any medical studies. They intend to make a rather limited number of media appearances in the future, primarily just to appease the world's curiosity and to reduce the number of people who might otherwise be taken aback by their novel body configuration. They would prefer not to be stared at or photographed by strangers while going about their private lives. They expect to date, get married and have children. They hope that by providing some information about themselves they will be able to lead otherwise fairly typical social lives as together they continue to make new friends.[10][11]

[edit] Inventory of organ distribution

Most of Abigail's and Brittany's shared organs are located at or below the level of the navel and their merging coccyx.

    * 2 heads
    * 2 completely separate spinal cords
    * 2 spines with ribs bridging the two columns
    * 2 arms—originally 3, but rudimentary central arm was surgically removed, leaving central shoulder blade in place
    * 1 broad ribcage, with surgery to correct scoliosis and expand the pleural cavities
    * 2 breasts
    * 2 highly fused sternums, traces of bridging ribs
    * 3 lungs (medial lungs moderately fused, not involving Brittany's upper right lobe); three pleural cavities
    * 1 diaphragm with well-coordinated involuntary breathing, slight central defect
    * 2 hearts in a shared circulatory system— nutrition, respiration, medicine taken by either affects both
    * 2 stomachs
    * 2 gallbladders
    * 1 liver - enlarged and elongated right lobe
    * Y-shaped small intestine which experiences a slightly spastic double peristalsis at the juncture
    * 1 large intestine with one colon
    * 2 left kidneys, 1 right kidney
    * 1 bladder
    * 1 set of reproductive organs
    * 2 separate half-sacrums, which converge distally
    * 1 slightly broad pelvis
    * 2 legs

Note: the term diprosopus is sometimes equated with parapagus, but this can lead to confusion because, obviously, there is no craniofacial nor neck involvement in the Hensels' lateral fusion.

[edit] Filmography
This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it.

The following is a list of documentaries and other television s

   1. ^ The Twins Who Share a Body Jan. 12, 2008
   2. ^ Weathers, Helen. "Abigail and Brittany Hensel: an extraordinary bond", Daily Mail, 2006-12-31. Retrieved on 2007-02-16.
   3. ^ The Most Intimate Bond from Time magazine, 25 March 1996
   4. ^ Chang, Maria L. "Joined for life - co-joined six-year-old Hensel twins share many body parts". Science World. (October 4, 1996)
   5. ^ Joined for Life, Adler Media, (2002), See also here
   6. ^ Abby Hensel at the Internet Movie Database
   7. ^ Britty Hensel at the Internet Movie Database
   8. ^ Shared Lives Aug. 22, 2004
   9. ^ Channel 5 (UK TV) television program Extraordinary People, 9-10 pm Wednesday 21 November 2007
  10. ^ Minnesota's Abby and Brittany Hensel, conjoined twins, make Newsweek Feb. 28, 2008
  11. ^ Reality’s Believe It or Not March 3, 2008

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Icould not download pictures of these delightful little girls. I will try again later.
Title: Co-joined twins
Post by: Karen W. on 28/06/2008 07:38:00
I understand your question is serious that is why I answered the way I did I think sharing one body could mean one ticket,if it is strictly seat count, BUT some may argue that as they have individual heads thoughts ect, that they both see the movie and could be charged by the fact they both watched the movie..??? It really is tricky and since the two sisters are sharing the body I think they are two very different individuals who think and see from very different views mentally,so to allow for their individualities one must consider them two and thus charge as such.. unless the establishment only is worried about seat count! Hard question!
Title: Co-joined twins
Post by: Karen W. on 28/06/2008 07:45:38
That is incredible and amazing.. What beautiful little girls!
Title: Co-joined twins
Post by: Alan McDougall on 28/06/2008 07:46:48
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hensel_twins2.jpg

Here is the link to their photo
Title: Co-joined twins
Post by: RD on 28/06/2008 14:18:24
The term Siamese twins (for conjoined twins) was due to the fame of Chang and Eng Bunker...

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The Bunker brothers were born on 11 May, 1811 in Siam (now Thailand), in the province of Samutsongkram, to a Chinese fisherman (Ti-eye)[1] and a half-Chinese/half-Malay mother (Nok).[2] They were joined at the sternum by a small piece of cartilage. Their livers were fused but independently complete. Although 19th century medicine did not have the means to do so, modern surgical techniques would have easily allowed them to be separated today. In 1829, they were discovered in Siam by British merchant Robert Hunter and exhibited as a curiosity during a world tour. Upon termination of their contract with their discoverer, they successfully went into business for themselves. In 1839, while visiting Wilkesboro, North Carolina, with P.T. Barnum, the twins were attracted to the town and settled there, becoming naturalized United States citizens.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chang_and_Eng_Bunker

I believe that when one drank alcohol both became drunk.

Title: Co-joined twins
Post by: Make it Lady on 29/06/2008 15:35:06
I think conjoined twins like to be classed as two people who happen to be joined together. I expect that they would insist on buying two tickets. This kind of question should always be answered with "ask them what they would like to happen, be called etc."
Title: Co-joined twins
Post by: paul.fr on 29/06/2008 21:53:21
This kind of question should always be answered with "ask them what they would like to happen, be called etc."

I for one thought this was a joke topic, and not a good one. I reckon that this is why there have been few replies to a topic that starts with such a one liner.
Title: Co-joined twins
Post by: Karen W. on 30/06/2008 04:01:00
I think conjoined twins like to be classed as two people who happen to be joined together. I expect that they would insist on buying two tickets. This kind of question should always be answered with "ask them what they would like to happen, be called etc."

I agree!
Title: Co-joined twins
Post by: Alan McDougall on 30/06/2008 08:19:50
Quote
I think conjoined twins like to be classed as two people who happen to be joined together. I expect that they would insist on buying two tickets. This kind of question should always be answered with "ask them what they would like to happen, be called etc."

The young conjoined girls insist they are separate individuals and always pay separately . For instance colledge and school fee's are always for each child.

They are separate beings wrapped in the same blanket (mothers quote) and should be treated as such

Regards

Alan
Title: Co-joined twins
Post by: Karen W. on 30/06/2008 14:55:42
I would  definitely agree with that. They are individuals. QUITE AMAZING INDIVIDUALS AT THAT!!

Nice article. very touching situation.