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Title: Does turning off the immersion heater save energy?
Post by: thedoc on 10/09/2013 11:10:55

I have heard that people can save large amounts of electricity by switching their immersion heaters off and I really would like to understand how this works.

One needs to understand that the geyser trip switch does not switch the geyser on, what it does is make electricity available to the thermostat which then can turn the heater on once the temperature drops to the point where heating is required.  So why would turning it off have an effect, assuming minimal heat loss from the container?

 
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Rob Bernstein

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Title: Re: Turn off the immersion to save energy?
Post by: dlorde on 02/08/2013 14:24:37
On the face of it, switching off will save electricity because the thermostat will then be irrelevant - no electricity will be used at all.

But assuming he doesn't mean that the power is off permanently, won't insulation be the key factor? Under thermostatic control, the temperature remains around its maximum, with continual maximal heat loss, regardless of demand.

When powered off, the rate of heat loss declines with temperature to a minimum. When powered back on, the energy goes mainly to heating the water and maximal heat loss only occurs once maximum temperature is reached and only continues until power is switched off again, when it once more declines.


Title: Re: Turn off the immersion to save energy?
Post by: robbie on 03/08/2013 11:03:36
People are talking about switching off for a few hours e.g. overnight or while at work during the day.

Obviously a badly insulated geyser will lose a significant amount of heat, but I suspect that a modern geyser would be efficiently insulated to cut heat loss, after all that's what it is designed for.



Title: Re: Turn off the immersion to save energy?
Post by: alancalverd on 03/08/2013 12:56:50
When it's off, it's off. Minimum energy is expended by heating only the water you need, when you need it. Minimum cost may require heating and storing water at a different time from time of use, so you need to experiment with your particular system and power tariff to get the optimum to suit your needs.
Title: Re: Turn off the immersion to save energy?
Post by: dlorde on 04/08/2013 00:43:11
I suspect many systems combine thermostatic control with on/off timers, so the water is kept hot only when demand is most likely.
Title: Re: Turn off the immersion to save energy?
Post by: alancalverd on 04/08/2013 02:05:34
That is the standard installation for all but "on demand" heaters.
Title: Re: Turn off the immersion to save energy?
Post by: syhprum on 08/08/2013 16:25:33
Turning of devices can never fail to save energy but whether you always save money is a mute point, if you have a water heater and it is well insulated always run it when power is cheapest but storage type room heaters are a different matter.
If you store up heat at night when power is at its cheapest they have an annoying tendency to release it during the day when it tends to be warm enough anyway (in the UK) I have generally found them to be of little use.
Title: Re: Does turning off the immersion heater save energy?
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