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Update on my status:I agreed the Herman Copper toxicity theory and about to start the vitamins and minerals that he is suggested and consulted my doctor. My doctor also quite impressed by his theory and he suggested me to undergone, Hair Tissue Mineral Analysis. He told that it is the most accurate test to determine imbalance in minerals in the body tissues. I ordered this Test and gave my sample hair. It will take around one month for the report in our area. I also advised each and every one to do this analysis before starting any vitamin & mineral supplements.
RomiesYou have to be kidding me with Finasteride. Effectively blocked? Finasteride is POISON. I have people who are trying to overcome the effects of that crap for years. Stay away from that stuff/ Some reports POIS symptoms from using finasteride.
What do you mean by "pronounced?"
If you're suggesting that more people should display signs of vitamin D deficiency then perhaps they do? In Ireland where I live it's emerging that many people are vitamin D deficient. Particularly elderly people but they never associated that with bone weakness, fatigue or depression. http://www.ijms.ie/portals/_ijms/documents/op-506.pdf [nofollow]
I tested urinary ammonia and it was elevated. I haven't had glutathione tested. However, some supplementary glutathione appeared to reduce my acne dramatically. I have no idea why. It shouldn't work as there are 2 laboratory experiments showing poor absorption. I saw B Daniel's glutathione tests and they appeared low but as far as I remember he doesn't have a CBS upregulation mutation. Yes Yasko appears obsessed with CBS but she's obsessed with it because she claims she keeps seeing it in autism patients she's treating. So either she's telling porkies or it's correlated with some other mutation or set of mutations that seems to co-occur with CBS. No idea. While the MIT.edu paper is interesting it doesn't really prove or disprove the validity of Yasko's treatment regime, it just points out that there are contradictions. If this was a maths paper, you could say it's "false" but it's a complicated chemical system with currently unknown variables so the unintended consequences (which may be beneficial) are unknowable. There seem to be lots of contradictions in Yasko's work anyway. I've posted before about the RNA preparations which must degrade at room temperature and render themselves useless. I never worked my way through her patent on a mechanism to prevent degradation. I know there's quite some scientific skepticism about itQuoteYasko, A. Arrow , et al. (1993) Acid Stable End Blocked Nucleic Acids and Therapeutic Uses Thereof. US PatentHowever, when a precise mechanism of interaction is unknown all experiments can do is prod around the edges and try to establish what may be happening. i.e. she could be wrong about ammonia but she may be spotting some connection between CBS or a concurrent mutation and acidity, leading to greater ammonia production.
Yasko, A. Arrow , et al. (1993) Acid Stable End Blocked Nucleic Acids and Therapeutic Uses Thereof. US Patent
Generally I try to think of pretty simple hypotheses and test them on myself with safe doses of vitamins. When I say safe I mean, well below doses that have been shown to be toxic but perhaps above the RDA. Vitamin D supplementation appears to work. I took a multivitamin with methylfolate and methylcobalamin instead of the usual folic acid and cyanocobalamin. Added some adenosylcobalamin and vitamin D and life improved. In particular I felt more energy and less aches/pains. These were present most of the time and affected my ability to exercise, run, play sports etc. I didn't associate them with POIS until it seemed that my reaction to orgasm improved with my tolerance for exercise and my general mood.
From reading other posts, these symptoms appear correlated in other POIS sufferers. i.e. this thing just doesn't affect us at orgasm. Anyway, just some thoughts
Anyway I'm curious and i'm trying right now the B6 for 5 days and add the zinc yesterday.I'm high in prolactin, use to be low in testo(but apparently not reliable),high in cholesterol, my feritin is just in the middle of the range like cortisol,my copper serum is low(don't know if reliable) Niacin doesn't really work for me, I don't feel alergic when i'm in POIS, NSaids is the only thing that work for me and i'm not positive to skin ***** test.
Quote from: LAPOISSE2 on 28/02/2013 18:59:42Anyway I'm curious and i'm trying right now the B6 for 5 days and add the zinc yesterday.I'm high in prolactin, use to be low in testo(but apparently not reliable),high in cholesterol, my feritin is just in the middle of the range like cortisol,my copper serum is low(don't know if reliable) Niacin doesn't really work for me, I don't feel alergic when i'm in POIS, NSaids is the only thing that work for me and i'm not positive to skin ***** test.Since you feel allergic and Niacin does not work for you, maybe Kurtosis regimen will work (methyl-guard, VC, ginkgo/blueberry extract)? see this link for details: http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=468.0You can ask Kurtosis himself. The regimen has been evolving overtime.. my understanding is probably 45-deg out-of-phase with Kurtosis and need to catch up.
Quote from: nathan123 on 02/03/2013 14:14:36Update on my status:I agreed the Herman Copper toxicity theory and about to start the vitamins and minerals that he is suggested and consulted my doctor. My doctor also quite impressed by his theory and he suggested me to undergone, Hair Tissue Mineral Analysis. He told that it is the most accurate test to determine imbalance in minerals in the body tissues. I ordered this Test and gave my sample hair. It will take around one month for the report in our area. I also advised each and every one to do this analysis before starting any vitamin & mineral supplements. Hi Nathan, What country are you from?
Quote from: kurtosis on 02/03/2013 14:33:30Quote from: nathan123 on 02/03/2013 14:14:36Update on my status:I agreed the Herman Copper toxicity theory and about to start the vitamins and minerals that he is suggested and consulted my doctor. My doctor also quite impressed by his theory and he suggested me to undergone, Hair Tissue Mineral Analysis. He told that it is the most accurate test to determine imbalance in minerals in the body tissues. I ordered this Test and gave my sample hair. It will take around one month for the report in our area. I also advised each and every one to do this analysis before starting any vitamin & mineral supplements. Hi Nathan, What country are you from?From India. May I know the reason for asked.
Quote from: nathan123 on 03/03/2013 05:59:14Quote from: kurtosis on 02/03/2013 14:33:30Quote from: nathan123 on 02/03/2013 14:14:36Update on my status:I agreed the Herman Copper toxicity theory and about to start the vitamins and minerals that he is suggested and consulted my doctor. My doctor also quite impressed by his theory and he suggested me to undergone, Hair Tissue Mineral Analysis. He told that it is the most accurate test to determine imbalance in minerals in the body tissues. I ordered this Test and gave my sample hair. It will take around one month for the report in our area. I also advised each and every one to do this analysis before starting any vitamin & mineral supplements. Hi Nathan, What country are you from?From India. May I know the reason for asked.It's just that some of the treatments that you mention are quite exotic. For instance gold is an Ayurvedic treatment, as you know. They wouldn't be the norm in Ireland or the UK even if someone presented with a strange illness. That is why I asked but I remember you told us you were from India before so apologies for asking again.
urano75/Andrea,Welcome on board. I had some similar symptoms that point towards excessive histamine. Here are some reading that may be of some use to you.http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=5614;sa=showPostsGood luck.