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What is that you really want to say?
I think we can safely say this has strayed into New Theories territory...
Nearby Sirius B a photon is approaching to it, this photon is receiving energy. Is this event reducing mass of Sirius B?
I wasn't asking about speed. Sirius B increases frequency of wave of an approaching photon.Does it increase energy of the photon? If yes, then where does the energy come from?
Quote from: JP on 14/11/2010 06:55:53I think we can safely say this has strayed into New Theories territory...Are you going to elaborate on mass-energy relationship?That's what I expected next in this discussion.
I think I elaborated a bit on it already. No offense, but I find your posts to be a bit confusing (it may be a language issue?), which is why I haven't been able to answer them better. Do you have a specific question about mass and energy and their relationship?
Generally, the answer would be no. It would depend on what you wanted to do with "mass," but if you put the gas in a box and wanted to push the box, the apparent (inertial) mass of the box would be due to the rest/invariant masses of the particles plus a mass term resulting from the energies of the particles.
Quote from: JP on 16/11/2010 03:34:43Generally, the answer would be no. It would depend on what you wanted to do with "mass," but if you put the gas in a box and wanted to push the box, the apparent (inertial) mass of the box would be due to the rest/invariant masses of the particles plus a mass term resulting from the energies of the particles.So the real mass of the gas in the box is the sum of every particle's rest mass.
If we put some mass in a box, and half of the mass turns into energy, then the mass in the box is halved. There is simple logic in this.
I think you're describing the science of this correctly, but you're trying to claim that this science means there's some sort of new conservation law or some kind of "real" mass, which is incorrect.
It's not well known. It's new for you guys.It might even be new. I don't know when it appeared into Wikipedia. Should I have mentioned Wikipedia straight away?
Quote from: simplified on 14/11/2010 10:29:59Nearby Sirius B a photon is approaching to it, this photon is receiving energy. Is this event reducing mass of Sirius B?Falling is a straightforward thing. No energy change happens.