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Life Sciences => Plant Sciences, Zoology & Evolution => Topic started by: neilep on 22/08/2007 17:42:59
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Hullo,
I'm just here passing the vine !!
These are some seedless grapes :
(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dkimages.com%2Fdiscover%2Fpreviews%2F871%2F50040926.JPG&hash=12328be0966b60fd591c5a9d60fe9460)
Nice aren't they ?...do you want some ?
...revealing the inside displays a seedless baron environment (apart from the juicy goodness luff and joy)
So, could I grow some from this bunch ?
How would I do it ?
Thanks..I am grapeful for your help.
Neil
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As I understand it, seedless grapes can only be grown vegetatively (i.e. from cuttings), and then often by grafting onto the stalk of another plant. This does ofcourse mean there is very little genetic diversity in seedless grapes.
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what you need
pollen of a seedless grape
flowers of a seeded (is that a word?) grape variety
what you do
place the pollen of a seedless grape onto the flowers of a grape variety that has seeds. cut open and inspect the fruit of every single plant that grows and looking for seeds, some plants will have seeds in their fruit and others won't.
find a plant that has no seeds, or maybe just has very tiny traces of seeds that you wouldn't be able to taste, use it to make more seedless plants. One way is to cut off small pieces of the seedless plant's vine and place it in a greenhouse. Eventually, the pieces of vine will grow roots and become new, individual plants.
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As I understand it, seedless grapes can only be grown vegetatively (i.e. from cuttings), and then often by grafting onto the stalk of another plant. This does ofcourse mean there is very little genetic diversity in seedless grapes.
THANK YOU GEORGE...very much.
Karen is our resident 'grafter' I bet she could make seedless grapes !
When you say " very little genetic diversity" does that mean that varieties of seedless grape are few ?
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what you need
pollen of a seedless grape
flowers of a seeded (is that a word?) grape variety
what you do
place the pollen of a seedless grape onto the flowers of a grape variety that has seeds. cut open and inspect the fruit of every single plant that grows and looking for seeds, some plants will have seeds in their fruit and others won't.
find a plant that has no seeds, or maybe just has very tiny traces of seeds that you wouldn't be able to taste, use it to make more seedless plants. One way is to cut off small pieces of the seedless plant's vine and place it in a greenhouse. Eventually, the pieces of vine will grow roots and become new, individual plants.
THANK YOU PAUL....
Nice way of explaining it using the 'what you need' and 'what you do vernacular'....you ought to start a thread that utilises these terms !!
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THANK YOU PAUL....
Nice way of explaining it using the 'what you need' and 'what you do vernacular'....you ought to start a thread that utilises these terms !!
I was thinking about doing that, Neil. Do you think it would be worth doing? Or would i just end up talking to myself most of the time?
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THANK YOU PAUL....
Nice way of explaining it using the 'what you need' and 'what you do vernacular'....you ought to start a thread that utilises these terms !!
I was thinking about doing that, Neil. Do you think it would be worth doing? Or would i just end up talking to myself most of the time?
I was thinking the very same thing about doing a Science Picture thread but figured I'd be the only participant !!
*le sigh* ...we're just martyrs to the cause !!
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I was thinking the very same thing about doing a Science Picture thread but figured I'd be the only participant !!
*le sigh* ...we're just martyrs to the cause !!
Maybe you should try it. would you happen to have a link to such a topic?