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Title: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: neilep on 12/05/2004 20:46:15
I yawn a lot, and stretch too........Why is that every so often after a real big yawn or stretch I get to see twinkling dots of flashy bits in my eyes  ?.....it can last about 30 seconds or so...sometimes up to a minute and then diminishes

.....I'm not worried...have had them all my life.....if you can imagine a black canvas and sporadically tiny flashes no larger than a pin head.....though it happens with my eyes open as well

Your incites into why this happens would be most welcome

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Title: Re: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: Rokitansky on 12/05/2004 21:17:49
hm? here is a guess: during forced inspirium blood is kept in pulmonary blood vessels due to decreased intrathoracic preasure, which makes your blood preasure to drop.

any other opinions?
Title: Re: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: MayoFlyFarmer on 13/05/2004 07:01:40
I know what you are taking about neil.  Its very similar to tiny litttle spots you see if you rub your eyes and open them real fast. this is from your sensory receptors responding to a sense that is forgien to them (tuoch rather than feel).  It is quite possible that when we stretch/yawn/wahetever, we open our eyes wide, or do something to stretch/physically stimualte them that causes this response.

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Title: Re: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: neilep on 13/05/2004 10:28:51
Thanks Darko, and Thanks Justy.....Yes it also happens when I rub my eyes too....Thanks for clearing that up. For a while I thought I had my own little active star map behind my eye lids !!...cheers

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Title: Re: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: Ylide on 13/05/2004 12:02:45
I've had that same thing happen, too.  I always thought it was just me!

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Title: Re: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: neilep on 13/05/2004 21:04:04
Well you're not alone !!!!..perhaps we should start a secret society with a special greeting  which involves poking each others eyes !!

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Title: Re: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: Donnah on 13/05/2004 22:27:44
If you don't mind Neil, eye'll pass on that one.
Title: Re: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: neilep on 13/05/2004 23:08:06
Oh but Donnah....you already make the stars shine in my eyes (https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Finstagiber.net%2Fsmiliesdotcom%2Fcontrib%2Fcorky%2Fcorkysm60.gif&hash=da979e798f831d56300648b5e0124832)

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Title: Re: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: Donnah on 13/05/2004 23:44:01
Are you sure you're not a politician Neil?
Title: Re: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: bezoar on 13/05/2004 23:59:40
Hey there, you with the stars in your eyes.... Isn't there a song lyric like that?  Did you inspire it?
Title: Re: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: neilep on 14/05/2004 02:31:52
Hi Nancy !!...I don't recall it in a song !!..well...hey !!!.....seems like I'm a song writer too !!.......and Donnah LOL.....I'm definitely not a politician !!..why ?...would you vote for me ?....I don't have a manifesto though !! and I have very little interest in it....to me....it all sounds like the same old story but a different tune each time.

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Title: Re: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: Ylide on 15/05/2004 09:07:33
bezoar, that's a Foreigner song you're thinking of.  (Jukebox Hero)  In polite society, we try not to think about the band Foreigener.  =P  That song's stuck in my head now.  Thanks.  Thanks a lot.





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Title: Re: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: neilep on 15/05/2004 12:04:31
You're As Cold As Ice !!!...Classic Foreigner eh ?

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Title: Re: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: bezoar on 15/05/2004 15:14:22
Actually, the song I was thinking of was even older than that.  But Penile, if you were the inspiration for Jukebox Hero, oh I am so impressed.
Title: Re: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: neilep on 15/05/2004 16:19:21
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Title: Re: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: Donnah on 15/05/2004 22:26:35
There's another song, much older, with that line in it.  My mother used to sing it when I was little (and we all know how long ago that was).
Title: Re: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: bezoar on 16/05/2004 19:05:34
You're thinking of the same song I am.  Guess I've really dated myself now.
Title: Re: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: neilep on 16/05/2004 19:36:47
I didn't know Foreigner had been going since the 19th Century !! (hee hee)

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Title: Re: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: Donnah on 17/05/2004 22:32:56
Smart (https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerpannen.com%2Fcwm%2Fups%2Fpezhed%2Fjackass.gif&hash=030c5ee71163c43364d2c94bd3cd156b).
Title: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: Karen W. on 31/03/2007 20:53:37
I thought this was appropriate and perhaps the song they refered to!

ROSEMARY CLOONEY lyrics - "Hey There"

(Richard Adler and Jerry Ross)

Lately when I'm in my room all by myself
In the solitary gloom I call to myself

Hey there, you with the stars in your eyes
Love never made a fool of you
You used to be too wise
Hey there, you on that high-flyin' cloud
Though he won't throw a crumb to you
You think some day he'll come to you

Better forget him
Him with his nose in the air
He has you dancin' on a string
Break it and he won't care

Won't you take this advice
I hand you like a mother
Or are you not seein' things too clear
Are you too much in love to hear
Is it all goin' in one ear and out the other

Hey there, you with the stars in your eyes
(Are you talking to me)
Love never made a fool of you
(Not until now)
You used to be too wise
(Yes, I was once)

Will you take this advice
I hand you like a mother
Or am I not seein' things too clear
Are you just too far gone to hear
Is it all goin' in one ear and out the other
Title: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: iko on 31/03/2007 23:23:52
...Sorry everybody,
I'm having one of my compulsory
cut & paste crisis!



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Phosphenes are a visual and neurological phenomenon common to all mankind. They are the undulating (aurora like) geometric patterns and moving points of colored light we often experience when we close our eyes, or when we keep them open while adapting to a dark room. This mesmerizing effect can also be produced if we press our fingers firmly on our eyes long enough to stimulate the same retinal process. Electrophosphenes are a method of electrically reproducing the same visual effect as phosphenes, but with a greater range of patterns, color subtlety and precision. Electrophosphenes are created by placing small galvanic electrodes on the temples near each eye, and applying a tiny voltage (one volt at one milliampere current) that is pulse modulated at frequencies typically between 5-100 Hz. The locus of the effect is in the retina, and available evidence suggests that tiny induced currents in the retina elicit visual responses similar to those resulting from light stimulation.
Electrophosphenes have been studied for more than a century, including extensive investigation by early scientific luminaries such as Benjamin Franklin and Johannes Purkinje. However, the majority of experimental arrangements have typically used man-made electrical and pulse modulation systems to produce the effect. The proposed system for the Altamira project would instead use naturally occurring celestial objects (pulsars) as the primary electrophosphene signal input. (A substantial percentage of catalogued pulsars produce pulse frequencies and pulse shapes perfect for generating unique forms of electrophosphenes).

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Title: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: iko on 31/03/2007 23:30:04


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What happens when you "see stars"?


Dear Cecil:

How can a person "see stars"? When you exert yourself physically and then stop, you have these hundreds of little BBs zooming in space in front of you. I have actually believed I could touch them.  Try staring at the ground about ten feet in front of you and follow one of the lights out of the corner of your eye until it blinks out. It's kind of a kick. Explain how this physical change of sight and mind can occur as easily as doing a cartwheel.
Terry, Waunakee, Wisconsin

Dear Terry:

Not being one for cartwheels, Cecil tried to see what kind of business he could drum up doing somersaults. This has moved him to thank God there weren't any kids around to see what kind of weirdo their father was, particularly after that session last month with the Hula Hoop. Nonetheless I did manage to get a passel of zooming Bbs on one occasion, along with a monster headache.  The little spots of light, which are to be distinguished from the opaque spots or threads we've discussed in the past, persist for perhaps five or ten seconds and appear to swim around. But I only got them after a particularly crazed gymnastic exhibition. What do you do, finish your cartwheels by slamming  into a wall?

BBs, "stars," and other "nonphotic" visual stimuli (i.e., those not actually produced by light) are called photopsia or phosphenes. They're believed to be caused by mechanical stimulation of the nerves of the eye. Another example is the sensation of light produced by pressure on the eye, a phenomenon described by no less an authority than Aristotle.

Young people see stars every once in a while as a result of a blow to the head or some sudden exertion. But the little BBs don't really become common until retirement age. What happens is that the eyeball fluid, which is contained in a sort of sac, starts to pull away from the back of the eye. This is called "posterior vitreous detachment," and it usually occurs suddenly, often following a jolt to the head. You see stars and spots and your vision is blurred and distorted. The stars may persist for weeks or even years as fibers from your eyeball sac continue to tug on your retina.

Grim though it sounds, vitreous detachment is normal, occurring in maybe half the population. Apart from stars and spots, your vision usually winds up about the same. But stars and spots can also herald a detached retina, which is bad news indeed. If you're nearing retirement age, you definitely want to slack off on those cartwheels.

Cecil Adams      05-Feb-1988

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Title: Sparkling Stars in my eyes !!
Post by: Karen W. on 07/04/2007 17:38:32


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What happens when you "see stars"?


Dear Cecil:

How can a person "see stars"? When you exert yourself physically and then stop, you have these hundreds of little BBs zooming in space in front of you. I have actually believed I could touch them.  Try staring at the ground about ten feet in front of you and follow one of the lights out of the corner of your eye until it blinks out. It's kind of a kick. Explain how this physical change of sight and mind can occur as easily as doing a cartwheel.
Terry, Waunakee, Wisconsin

Dear Terry:

Not being one for cartwheels, Cecil tried to see what kind of business he could drum up doing somersaults. This has moved him to thank God there weren't any kids around to see what kind of weirdo their father was, particularly after that session last month with the Hula Hoop. Nonetheless I did manage to get a passel of zooming Bbs on one occasion, along with a monster headache.  The little spots of light, which are to be distinguished from the opaque spots or threads we've discussed in the past, persist for perhaps five or ten seconds and appear to swim around. But I only got them after a particularly crazed gymnastic exhibition. What do you do, finish your cartwheels by slamming  into a wall?

BBs, "stars," and other "nonphotic" visual stimuli (i.e., those not actually produced by light) are called photopsia or phosphenes. They're believed to be caused by mechanical stimulation of the nerves of the eye. Another example is the sensation of light produced by pressure on the eye, a phenomenon described by no less an authority than Aristotle.

Young people see stars every once in a while as a result of a blow to the head or some sudden exertion. But the little BBs don't really become common until retirement age. What happens is that the eyeball fluid, which is contained in a sort of sac, starts to pull away from the back of the eye. This is called "posterior vitreous detachment," and it usually occurs suddenly, often following a jolt to the head. You see stars and spots and your vision is blurred and distorted. The stars may persist for weeks or even years as fibers from your eyeball sac continue to tug on your retina.

Grim though it sounds, vitreous detachment is normal, occurring in maybe half the population. Apart from stars and spots, your vision usually winds up about the same. But stars and spots can also herald a detached retina, which is bad news indeed. If you're nearing retirement age, you definitely want to slack off on those cartwheels.

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Now I have seen little fellows like these now and again over the years, but not after anything strenuous or anything like that! Once I was hit with a line drive down the third base line at a baseball game. It was a hard straight hit. to my forehead!. It split my head open on the top where my part is at the back of my crown kind of a weird T split!Oddly enough I did not get an egg, which was weird but it cracked the skull bone on the top back side of my head! I continued in a sitting position, but the lights went out for several moments, even though I was aware of voices around me I could not see anything for a few minutes, then when I gained back my eyesight, I did see stars.. lots of these lovely floaty swimmy little guys. I have seen floaty spots several times since that time, but not as yellow in color, more whitish shiny kinda , but the picture is really close to the mark. colors off for me!!

The other picture I have never seen anything like that!  way odd.. If I did I would worry about what was slipped into my glass!! LOL

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