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Title: Questions That Boggle Our Mind
Post by: blue_cristal on 15/05/2008 10:04:36
Let me start with this one:

Why there is an UNIVERSE ( or multiverse ) instead of NOTHING ?

Or put more simply, why there is something instead of nothing ?

Surely, by saying that some kind of god “created” it, is not an answer because this would push the question just one step back and oblige us to ask, “Why there was/is a god instead of nothing ?”.

Furthermore, one should explain how this god constructed the entire universe from no initial material at all ( nothing ).

Every single object of the universe was formed from a previous material.

You cannot create everything from nothing by “magic”.

There is not a single evidence that magic is possible ( unless it is just a magician trick ).
Title: Questions That Boggle Our Mind
Post by: lyner on 15/05/2008 11:44:39
It is quite possible that this question is just not anwerable in any terms  to which we have access. We can ask similar questions about consciousness; the machine examining itself etc.
No need to be upset about it - it's the journey that counts and not the arriving.
Title: Questions That Boggle Our Mind
Post by: neilep on 15/05/2008 12:04:27
I agree with sophiecentaur (Hi Blue_Cristal by the way)....I asked a question here recently, that this question of yours, is probably appropriate for in that , questions like the one you ask, may be impossible for us to answer because we, as humans, may just be incapable of understanding the answers.....or discovering the answers.

.......I think there must be an answer though.........except......well.....we can only perceive the universe in the capacity that our understanding allows us to.

There may well be a whole different way of perceiving everything that we know...and that we just do not have the facility to comprehend it.
Title: Questions That Boggle Our Mind
Post by: blue_cristal on 15/05/2008 12:26:33
I seem to arrive to a possible solution to this question.

What if actually “nothing” is just a construct of our mind ?

What if it is just a mean to express the "lack of something" instead of real “nothing” ?

For instance, we look to an empty bottle and we say that there is “nothing” inside.
Surely there is no water or other liquid inside but this does not mean that the bottle is really empty.
It contains air, particles of dust, microbes, countless of forms of energy and diverse fields that we can detect or not.

What if total emptiness does not exist and never existed ?

What if what we see as “empty space” is full of things that our current limited senses cannot perceive ?

After all, we evolved to perceive only the minimum necessary to survive and reproduce and nothing else.

If nothing does not exist and never existed then..

.. asking if something can be originate from nothing does not make sense to start with.

If so, then, actually, we are enclosed in an universe of “fullness” and our perception of empty spaces is just a delusion produced by our limited senses.
Title: Questions That Boggle Our Mind
Post by: neilep on 15/05/2008 13:17:51
You are right...empty space is not empty at all !

This is not my field of expertise...but indeed...space is in fact teeming with particles that pop into existence and pop out again all the time.

Your bottle idea got me thinking.........can there really be an 'inside ' to it....?...the fabric of the bottle is just a whole bunch of atoms that happen to be cohesive.......there are still gaps between them (as far as I know) so in time...something could seep through........do you know what I mean.....so ....the atoms of the bottle just seem to be solid because they stick together closer than all the other atoms flying about....

....oooh....my head !!!...as you say....the mind boggles !!
Title: Questions That Boggle Our Mind
Post by: Soul Surfer on 15/05/2008 17:37:17
The simple explanation is because you are aware of it If there was nothing, that would include you and so you could not be aware of a universe with nothing in it.   [:)]