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Non Life Sciences => Geology, Palaeontology & Archaeology => Topic started by: thedoc on 26/05/2016 17:50:02

Title: Could pyramids have been terraformed?
Post by: thedoc on 26/05/2016 17:50:02
Jeffrey Gafkjen asked the Naked Scientists:
   My question is simple, with all of the information we have with energy provided by the pyramids around are entire planet, could that possibly be a form of terraformation of our planet many years ago. It is my belief it is and we overthink the reasons of their exsistence.
What do you think?
Title: Re: Could pyramids have been terraformed?
Post by: chiralSPO on 26/05/2016 19:04:25
Honestly, this sounds like overthinking the reasons of pyramids existence.

Earth didn't need to be terraformed. And terraforming is such an incredible undertaking compared to the meager feat of building a pyramid. It seems pretty clear to me that pyramids in both Africa and Central America were ancient versions of skyscrapers, built to inspire awe, for either religious or political reasons.
Title: Re: Could pyramids have been terraformed?
Post by: evan_au on 26/05/2016 22:39:21
Quote from: Jeffrey Gafkjen
energy provided by the pyramids around are entire planet
I think that quarrying, shaping, transporting and fitting giant stones using human labor is a huge energy sink (as in "all that effort went down the sink").

Well, it left us some pretty amazing buildings to look at....

I think that the idea of the pyramids as energy generators is a myth.
Title: Re: Could pyramids have been terraformed?
Post by: Alan McDougall on 27/05/2016 01:22:47
No they could not nature does not like straight lines!
Title: Re: Could pyramids have been terraformed?
Post by: JimBob on 04/07/2016 03:47:03
"...  with all of the information we have with energy provided by the pyramids"
  The Pyramids produce no energy of any sort that is meassurable.
Title: Re: Could pyramids have been terraformed?
Post by: Alex Dullius Siqueira on 04/07/2016 06:45:23
Tag with me, considering all the possibilities, pyramids were used for comunicationand measurement, now hold on:
 What are pyramids? Rocks
Wha't a rock? A dense atomic structure
What a dense atomic strcture can do with gravity? For this considereng the space compression against the Earth expansion...  Dense atomic structure do not let space compression penetrate it...
Why do you claim this? Simple because gravity is the result of compression, and that's the sole reason why planets are spheres like objects...
 Ok, now why Pyramids? Where they some sort of device?
 What? No. They where doing what they need to do by simple being what they are, a dense atomic structure artificial mountain
 What than?
 Their shappe is the only thing relevant....
 Let me ask you something, if you go to Mars in this example, considering that you cracked up the levitation and anti gravitational technoledge, and consider that you're not able to manufacture metals as soon as you arrive, you need a base anyway, and you cannot build satelites, what do you do? What would you use there?
 Rocks!

 Build them in a way that you can absorve the planet expansion, vibration, on the base and at the same time in a way that you can pierce, spread the space outer compression, this will not change the gravititational field inside the pyramid, but it will indeed, since gravity acts as a linear force, help you to send signals to outside the planet, acting as an anteana, that thing, just by being what it is, a giant pile of dense atoic structure, an artificial mountain, that thing is forming some sort of beacon, a physical one...  As the planet keeps rotating that thing can interact with space just by existing, like any other dense atomic structure outhere, a artificial mountain, a more effective one...

 Of course aways consider the most probably possibility that it was simple a fancy house, but very unlikely by many reasons...

 But don't take my word, take my example, humanaty dies tomorrow leaving behind a dynamo, another species of the animal kingdom raise up after bilions of years, and find the dynamo, don't ask me who did the dynamo survived it simple did ok, do you thing that for that species, without the same technoledge, the dynamo would make sense?
  The same goes for the yramids in the alien life scenario, of course that would require technology to send the signal, but in the absence of manufactured materials one should use the natural resources to build the antena over a flat surface to not have interference or have to worry about animals...
 See? Now the last question, theat thing somehow seems to you as being a freacking antena?
 I awnser it depends on your technoledge, ours is artificial using radio waves, if you crack levitation and space travel, means your cracked gravity, your technoledge would be much more focused on the hardware than on the software, a much more physical one...
 Now I awnser, after human species extinction, after tousands of years would another evolved species know what that dynamo was? I eman without understand the software or the abstract knoledge of our technology, that dynamo would also be took as a fancy joule...

Wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Could pyramids have been terraformed?
Post by: JimBob on 05/07/2016 04:02:29
Pyramid Power is not a physical science - it is pseudoscience
Title: Re: Could pyramids have been terraformed?
Post by: Ophiolite on 05/07/2016 07:54:37
Alex, you have an active imagination and that is commendable. Unrestrained active imaginations are of great value when creating works of fiction. However, when dealing with the non-fiction world, imagination must  be constrained by reality. Unfortunately your imaginative thoughts conflict with many facts established by tens of thousands of scientists over decades and centuries. I encourage you to do a little study of what is known and use your imagination to build on a solid foundation in future.
Title: Re: Could pyramids have been terraformed?
Post by: puppypower on 05/07/2016 13:41:28
Pyramids don't produce thermodynamic energy. However, they can induce neural or brain energy. For example, just looking at the pyramids can induce awe and amazement. These large symmetrical stone structures served the purpose of neural command lines, via a sensory input. Nature tends to increase entropy; second law means back to dust, but the pyramid reflected disorder going into lingering order. The animal brain of the human would have no precedent for this, triggering an adaptive reaction. 

It is similar to the subjectivity of art. If you go to a museum, good art has the ability to move you, emotionally. You may like it or hate it, but you will feel something. If one is not aware of the concept of projection (unconscious overlay) or if one believes all things come from the outside, one can get the feeling that the work of art has a magical energy or prestige. The energy is coming from within you and is triggered by the object.   

The ancients would define the art power of the pyramid, as divine in origin. Religion and art goes together because of the sensory trigger of art can act as command line for the brain, to induce subjectivity and even personality firmware. A firmware induction would have been understood as the god appearing.

Bling does the same thing. Say you start with two twin women. One has a large fancy diamond ring and the other has a small silver band on her finger. The big expensive diamond adds a prestige affect, similar to the art affect. In practical terms, it is a chunk of carbon, but culture gives this chunk of carbon a magic power than can make people gravitate to one of the women via the magic of the ring. The magic is owned by her, making her magical since it is part of her.

This is why the path of money is so attractive. If you have enough money you can drape yourself wth the subjectivity of manmade art. One can use fancy cars, clothes and beautiful women with fancy alterations, to induce the subjectivity of art so one can appear larger than life, to those who worship idols. If you had a dog, he would not be impacted the same way, since his brain is not triggered the same way by these command lines that have been induced by culture.

When Moses brought the Jews out of Egypt, idol worship was a big problem. The Egyptians were excellent artists and could make awesome art; golden calf, which could trigger the subjectivity of the gods. Moses had his hands full trying to tell them this subjectivity was not a god, but just good work of art. But when people are triggered, they are not being rational. If firmware is also triggered, they go off the ranch and not know it.
Title: Re: Could pyramids have been terraformed?
Post by: JimBob on 05/07/2016 19:05:53
"However, they can induce neural or brain energy."

Please provide a skeptical person such as myself a creditable source from a main stream scientific explanation for this claim. I have never seen one. At present, all I have seen are unsubstantiated claims. That goes for anything that claims pyramids are anything more than mortuary memorials.

Title: Re: Could pyramids have been terraformed?
Post by: syhprum on 06/07/2016 12:43:24
I am shocked to pyramid mumbo jumbo on a scientific forum1
Title: Re: Could pyramids have been terraformed?
Post by: JimBob on 09/07/2016 05:26:08
".... we overthink the reasons of their exsistence." part of question

my opinion - very correct assumption

pyramid mumbo jumbo

Agreed - its just another "The Mummy Rises" movie for the masses to be entertained by.

No scientific "proof" has been offered to date. Please provide this scientific proof or ....
    this is your last chance


Title: Re: Could pyramids have been terraformed?
Post by: JimBob on 10/07/2016 03:08:14
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