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Title: Is there a scientific definition of "wet"?
Post by: DoctorBeaver on 12/12/2008 21:13:23
Water is. I don't think mercury is. So what does "wet" mean?
Title: Re: Is there a scientific definition of "wet"?
Post by: RD on 12/12/2008 22:20:41
The verb to wet : to coat with a film of liquid.
The ability of a liquid to wet a surface is inversely proportional to its surface tension.
Water has a high surface tension, so most liquids are "wetter" than water, (e.g. pure alcohol).
Mercury, like water, has an unusually high surface tension.
Title: Re: Is there a scientific definition of "wet"?
Post by: lyner on 12/12/2008 22:24:09
Adhesion vs cohesive forces, I would suggest. Because of it's high specific heat capacity, once water  has wetted you it also manages to feel very cold. Other wet liquids - like light oils - stick but don't feel as cold.
I don't think there's an official definition.
Mercury wets copper braid very well btw.
Title: Re: Is there a scientific definition of "wet"?
Post by: RD on 12/12/2008 22:44:52
Mercury reacts with (dissolves) copper ...

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Metals such as tin, silver, and copper will form compounds with the mercury.
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2003-04/1049252616.Gb.r.html
Title: Re: Is there a scientific definition of "wet"?
Post by: DoctorBeaver on 12/12/2008 23:05:25
hmmm, interesting
Title: Re: Is there a scientific definition of "wet"?
Post by: lyner on 13/12/2008 00:29:06
Water dissolves lots of things - eventually.
I guess dissolving is the ultimate attraction.
Title: Re: Is there a scientific definition of "wet"?
Post by: lightarrow on 13/12/2008 18:03:56
Mercury reacts with (dissolves) copper ...
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Metals such as tin, silver, and copper will form compounds with the mercury.
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2003-04/1049252616.Gb.r.html
Ok, but, at room temperature, a mercury drop will first wet a copper surface, then, after xyz days/weeks will have (perhaps) completely dissolved in it. To increase reaction speed you would use fine copper powder. By the way, using fine Cu powder is a way (invented by me and never experimented [:)]) of removing very little Hg drops from pavement after a possible crash of an Hg thermometre.
Maybe gold is even more efficient, but it depends on your budget...  [;)]
Title: Re: Is there a scientific definition of "wet"?
Post by: lyner on 13/12/2008 21:47:11
Never drop mercury on the floor of an aeroplane - it eats its way through to the outside as the dissolved aluminium oxidises at the mercury air surface.
Title: Re: Is there a scientific definition of "wet"?
Post by: Kryptid on 18/12/2008 10:24:19
What about when you get down to the molecular level? What if you had a single molecule of water held to a single molecule of sugar by intermolecular forces? Is the molecule of sugar "wet"? If not, then how large does a group of molecules have to be before can be wet?
Title: Re: Is there a scientific definition of "wet"?
Post by: Monox D. I-Fly on 13/01/2018 06:04:47
The verb to wet : to coat with a film of liquid.

Going with this definition, can someone wet something with lava?
Title: Re: Is there a scientific definition of "wet"?
Post by: evan_au on 14/01/2018 20:38:54
Perhaps one aspect that did not appear in the above discussion is the type of forces between molecules & atoms.
- Water is a "Polar" molecule, with the Oxygen end being more negative than the Hydrogen end. Water interacts more strongly with Polar molecules (eg water) than it does with non-Polar molecules. So water will not wet things like wax, which is pretty much non-Polar.
- Mercury is a metal, which achieves much of its surface tension by sharing electrons. This interaction also works when in contact with copper or gold, but not when in contact with glass (an insulator).

The meniscus of mercury in glass is the opposite direction of the meniscus of water in glass.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meniscus_(liquid)
Title: Re: Is there a scientific definition of "wet"?
Post by: Bored chemist on 14/01/2018 21:06:57
This might help
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_angle

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