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On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: socratus on 17/06/2008 12:53:17
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Time. /My opinion./
There are two kinds of time:
a) the proper (individual) time and
b) the planetary time.
They are so familiar that we rarely give them thought.
Don’t we know, that time for living being is limited
and the planetary time is absolute for them ? It is.
But Einstein had another opinion. He wanted to know:
“ Where does the conception of time come from?”,
“ What is the essence of time?”.
And to explain these questions he created two theories:
SRT and GRT.
1.
SRT explains behavior and the proper time of light
quanta /electron. Why do I think so?
a)
One law (postulate) of SRT says that speed of light quanta
is constant c=1. Second law says no another particle
can reach this speed. So there are two incommensurable
quantities. Is it possible to bind them together? No. I was
taught at school from the first class that the incommensurable
quantities cannot be compared. The connection between these
incommensurable quantities is similar to the decision of a
problem: “What will be if the whale attacks the elephant?”
We can see whale in a ocean and elephant in a savanna,
but they never meet and fight in the same “ frame of reference”.
And the same is about light quanta and another particles.
We cannot see them together in SRT. We can meet only the
light quanta in SRT and no other particles in it.
b)
SRT was born from Maxwell's theory and it is a continuation
of the electrodynamics’ development . The electron is a main
and single hero in the Maxwell's theory and SRT. There
isn't the Maxwell's theory / SRT without electron.
It is not correct to compare electron/ light quanta with another
particles (protons…etc) and bodies (billiard balls, satellites,
astronauts, “twins”) because they cannot produce electromagnetic
fields. The electron and the another particles are also incommensurable
quantities. They are absolutely different objects.
c)
Every epoch has its own delusion. Maxwell and Boltzmann
tried to explain electromagnetic fields using balls, wheels,
cog-wheels, springs…etc. Now we try to compare electron/photon
ability with astronaut’s and “twins’ ” opportunities. It is mistaken,
but what to do? We do it because this is our way of cognition
:” From vague wish to the bright thought”.
2.
So, how SRT explains time from electron/ light quanta point of view.
a)
When light quanta is in state of a rest its time is frozen,
and its own clock shows zero.
b)
When photon moves with constant speed c=1
its time is also frozen, and its own clock still shows zero.
c)
Only when photon moves with speed c>1 its zero time
changes and limited time appears. In this situation we
know photon as an electron. Photon works as an electron
and SRT explains this process.
d)
And when , for example, electron emits from an atom and
interacts with Vacuum all its parameters change. Its limited
time ends and its own clock shows zero again. Now it lives
in infinite/ eternal Vacuum until new incarnation, until its new
work, maybe, in an atom (molecule), or in a cell, maybe, in a blade
of grass or in a tree, maybe, in an animal or in a person.
In another words:” We are living beings until Light quanta/
Electron is present and works in our body.”
e)
Trying to understand “ the electrodynamics of moving bodies”
Einstein wrote that it is the result of time and space changes.
It is not exactly correct , because these changes are secondary
in SRT. And the first point of SRT is that light quanta changes
its spin. The former Planck/ Einstein’s spin (h) changes in Goudsmit /
Uhlenbeck's spin (h = h / 2pi), and as a result of this act all its parameters
change and the time and new space appear.
3.
GRT explains the conditions of gravitation and the secret of
planetary time. Why do I think so?
a)
When Einstein worked on GRT, he asked astronomers:
“ What is the average mass of matter in the Universe?”
The result was lamentable. The quantity of mass was
insignificantly small. It was impossible to keep gravitation
law with such insignificantly little mass and so, the Universe
must be “open”, endless. But what to do with the infinite
space, Einstein didn’t know. Therefore he took (from the
heaven) “ the cosmological constant” in order to “close”
the Universe. The taken mass was enough for creating the
condition of gravitation. Without “ the cosmological constant”
the Universe is endless.
b)
In 1922 Friedman wrote, that we could not take “ the
cosmological constant” in calculation. Instead of it, it is
enough to take “time” and the Universe will be “closed”.
Friedman was correct, but why? Because “time”, by its
nature, is a limited physical quantity and, be taken in
mathematical calculation, automatically gives “closed” result.
c)
So, the detected material mass of the
matter in the Universe is so small (the average density
of all substance in the Universe is approximately
p=10^-30 g/sm^3) that the gravitation law doesn't work.
Astronomers and astrophysicists know about this fact and
therefore (to save the gravitation law) invented new matter
a "dark matter", a new energy a “dark energy” and another
abstract objects. This “ invention” is only a result of our
mentality , which says: ” If in a theory you meet infinity it
means the theory is nonsense”. It is very hard to take tha
t the Universe is infinite. It is no easy matter to give up
a lifetime of habit .
d)
On my opinion it is impossible to use GRT to Universe as
a whole. The Newton/ Einstein's gravitation laws are correct
only in the local parts of Vacuum. The Universe / Vacuum
as a whole is endless.
e)
So, how does GRT explain time?
According to GRT the time depends on the mass
and speed it means, of moving matter.
It means that different masses and speeds can create
different time. For example, our planet Earth has its
own time but for us it is absolute.
The other planets have another mass and speed and
therefore they have their own time. This time according
to GRT is relative. But their habitants will think their
time is absolute. But if they know GRT they will
not make this mistake.
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According to SRT and GRT time is relative.
SRT says about proper/ individual time of an
electron/ light quanta.
GRT says about planetary time of a Planet..
The time cannot exist without matter and speed,
in another words, without moving matter. But
different reasons and different moving of a matter
create the proper and planetary time.
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Is it possible to see the different manifestation of
time in a human being?
Here is an article “ Even the time is pressed from fear”
by Dr. Vadim Chernobrov (collaborator of MAI -
- Moscow Aviation Institute).
He wrote, that we usually think time is a constant quality.
But Einstein’s relative theory says time is relative.
Question. Is it possible to check it in our life?
Answer. Russian and foreign researches say it is
possible. The documents (secret in the past) testify
that “cataclysm of time”, “ phenomenon of time’s
perversion “,” the changes (its deceleration) of time”
often is observed by people whose profession connected
with risk: astronauts, pilots, drivers, soldiers.
1.
The test pilot Mark Gallay wrote in his book
“The test in the sky” when his airplane was caught
with fire “ the time began to go in another scale. The time
almost stopped. Every second took ability of expansion,
and in this situation it was possible to do many things.”
He confirms that tested such feeling many times.
2.
The test pilot Marina L. Popovich said the same,
in the dangerous, catastrophic situations “ the time
is stretches”.
3.
In June 1989 the soviet airplane MIG-29 crashed near
Paris, in Le Bourget airport , in the time of its air show.
The notes of “the black box” showed that during the
four (4)seconds the test pilot Anatoly Kvochur made as
many operations as in normal situation it would take some
minutes. The test pilot later said: ” the time was stretched”.
4.
The captain N.Z.(fought in Afghanistan) remembers:
“the fly of the bullet was so beautiful that I didn’t guess
to evade from it, although I have enough time to do it”.
5.
The sergeant V. Ch (fought in Afghanistan) told:
“ The black barrel of gun seems very big, even enormous.
Time is stopped and full silence came. And I moved slowly
a step a side and the bullet passed close to me.”
6.
Etc…
His conclusions.
The people in a critical situation, on the border of death,
suddenly for themselves begin to see everything as in the
slow down film and in this time their speed reaction and
power increase in tens and hundreds times. And this explains:
a) why a man who escaped from wolves, can quickly reach
up the top of the naked tree,
b) an old woman took out a big trunk from her burned house,
which later two strong firemen couldn’t rise.
c) etc…
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My experience.
The speed on the curve was so fast that I went on other
road line and flew straight at the “forehead’ of a green mercedes.
The driver of the mercedes was in panic. He threw the wheel and
closed his face with his hands in horror. Suddenly the time
stopped for me and I made many actions before my car kicked
only the side back door of the mercedes.
It was long time ago, but writing this article I understood better
what happened. In that time most neurons of my brain stopped
their electric pulse (time almost stopped) and my Light Quanta/
Electron in this new condition (superconductivity) had possibility
to increase my speed reaction and power on a short period of time
and maybe saved my life. I must thank Him.
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Best wishes.
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One comment.
Jud:
/My Opinion/
*Time* is a reificational myth - a helpful fiction and the ideative product of the human brain.
Like *number, movement, speed, appearance, being, energy, force... *time* is a metaphysical creation of mankind employed in order to enable him to
interface with other causal objects (other that is - to the causal, abstracting, reificative object which is ...himself.)
Although utterly unscientific, these abstractions are required in order for science to do its business of measuring and making deterministically engendered predictions. Only when scientists grasp that it is not the * behaviour * of objects that exists - but
* behaving objects* will the big TOE discoveries take place.
Put another way - *time* does not exist ... only (humanly) *timed objects* exist.
Best wishes,
Jud Evans.
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Dear Jud Evans.
I have read your comment with interest.
1.
From one hand, it seems you are right. Why?
There are different definitions: * movement,
speed, energy, force, charge, spin, field ...etc *
The physicists take these definitions as independent
physical characteristics and when some of them say:
“ We are always using these concepts but not
a singe physicist in the world today knows what
they really mean * deep down* ”
/ Book “ ABC ’s of Quantum mechanics”
by V. Rydnik. Page 315./
2.
From another hand, it seems you aren’t correct. Why?
Being a boy and a young man I was beaten many times
or as a Jew, or because I was right ,or it seems to
me that I was right but I was fool. So, I know by
my teeth how the physical parameters like
* movement, speed, energy, force, ...* are real and effective.
And now, as an old experienced man, I came to conclusion that
the physicists were never beaten and therefore they didn’t
know that the physical definitions like * movement,
speed, energy, force, charge, spin, field ...etc *
must be bound with concrete particle (object- subject)
which (who ) is a possessor of these characteristics or can
produce these characteristics. When they understand
this fact the situation will became clear.
3.
You wrote:
Put another way - *time* does not exist ... only (humanly) *timed objects* exist.
I think to solve your suggestion is like to solve equation:
“ infinity + 1= ? ”
4.
Maybe it is better to take objects like a light quanta or an
electron and try to understand why they are * timed objects*
5.
If you don’t like words * movement, speed, energy, force...*
change them into formulas and write them down, step by step,
for explaining the Existence as I do;
a) T=0K
b) h=c=0, R/N=k, E/M=c^2, C/D=pi, i^2=-1
c) h=c=1, h=Et, h=kb
d) h=h/2pi, c>1, e^2= ahc.
e) etc…
Maybe you will do this work better then me.
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Be lucky and not being beaten in the future.
Best wishes,
Israel.
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" It's not so much that there's something strange about time,
the thing that's strange is what's going on inside time.
We will first understand how simple the universe is when
we recognize how strange time is."
/ J. A. Wheeler/
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Dictative time or Subliminal time?
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My opinion is that you may be actually wasting time on this.
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d)
On my opinion it is impossible to use GRT to Universe as
a whole. The Newton/ Einstein's gravitation laws are correct
only in the local parts of Vacuum. The Universe / Vacuum
as a whole is endless.
I tend to agree on this point as to the others it is a waste of "TIME"