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quote:Originally posted by Hadrian By the way when will we be posting links about the scientific way to use chemical warfare for the home user?
quote:Originally posted by rosyJust as an experiment because I'm interested:S****horpe
quote:Originally posted by HadrianDoes the fact that such information is freely available on the internet justify a site like this also putting it out. Child pron is also on the internet would you consider it showing it as part of a discussion on the psychological effect of such images?
quote:Originally posted by HadrianPerhaps my view on this is coloured by the fact that the words pipe boom in my country is linked to death and maiming.
quote:We do not live in the innocent times were a bang was simply a thrill. I myself indulged in such escapades in my youth. But now yes I heat to see my son doing the same knowing that many innocent people have suffered at the hands of such technology.
quote: You letting your nostalgia cloud you judgment.
quote:Thinks to be stood for and this is one of them. It is just not defendable to give out this information with out taking responsibility for how it could be used.
quote:"I do believe that the censoring of knowledge is inappropriate, and it is far better that people know all, and can judge for themselves (including judging the harm they might do) than that we try and burn all the books that contain unpleasant truths."
quote:Originally posted by HadrianYou simply can't see the point I am making. It is nothing to do with censorship. That is a red herring. If the information is already freely available elsewhere how can it be censorship?
quote: You are defending a position because it yours and you have already decided on it. Is it because you can't accept the reasonability that you shear in holding such a position ? Of it simply you pride? You say you have to trust people. Yes you do but can you trust everyone with everything?
quote:Would you give children this information? Or are you going to run behind “it’s the parents reasonability to know what their child is viewing?”
quote: if just one person is hurt. Just one innocent bystander by a boom made from information form this site would you even blink? Delude to yourself all you want it can be defended
quote: quote: Would you give children this information? Or are you going to run behind “it’s the parents reasonability to know what their child is viewing?”Actually, yes I would. If they are old enough to understand what it means, then they are old enough to be taught to understand how to use it – and if it came to that, I'd rather that I was able to teach them how to use it then that they would find out for themselves and without any guidance I might be able to offer (as you say, the information is out there).I would argue that telling them “I will not give you this information, but you can go to someone else to get this information” is a greater shirking of one's responsibility, than to say that “this is the information you asked for, but it comes attached with some guidance as to how to use that information responsibly”.
quote:We live in a world where teachers are afraid of giving a child a hug, lest they be accused of sexual assault; where we would not stop to help a person in trouble lest we find ourselves in trouble; where the avoidance of risk is more important than to seek to help people.We have to stop being paranoid about death, and do more to seek to embrace life. Death will find us all in the end, it may be sooner, or it may be later; but at least give us the chance to live first, and do not keep us prisoners in our own fears.