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Title: bruised bananas
Post by: paul.fr on 10/04/2007 10:01:32
Why have my once lovely bananas got black bruises? even the inside has gone black. What's going on? i usually throw them when this happens or eat around the black bits. am i being too fussy in what i eat or am i correct in not eating the mushy black bits?
Title: bruised bananas
Post by: another_someone on 10/04/2007 12:42:38
Same as why apples, or any other fruit, will rapidly turn brown/black.

When part of the fruit starts to decay, it will give off signals (I believe, at least with bananas, it is the gas ethylene), which tells the neighbouring parts of the fruit (as well as any fruit nearby) that it is time to die.

I suspect it would be part of the process of returning nutrients to the soil (these being fruits that have not been eaten by animals, and thus have lost their usefulness - which was to entice an animal to eat the fruit and carry the seeds and deposit them in some distant parts).

I am not aware of any toxins the bruised fruit, but since most people (myself included) seem normally to avoid eating bruised or rotting bits of fruit (excepting the use of such for alcoholic beverages - flies can get intoxicated by the alcohol in rotting fruit), I am not sure why that would be so if there were no toxins.

http://www.ephidrina.org/alcohol/history.html
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Higher primates, such as chimpanzees, will eat rotting fruit to enjoy the "high" from their fermenting juices. It's therefore pretty safe to assume early Man did, too. The process of sugars fermenting into alcohol occurs regularly in nature through contact with airborne yeasts. But alcohol use would not have begun in earnest until the dawn of agriculture. Most sugars are simply not abundant enough in nature to make serious production worthwhile, so we probably began farming before we began brewing.

http://www.news-medical.net/?id=12390
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The scientists say that in nature, fruit flies are often exposed to alcohol in rotting fruit, and there is strong evidence to suggest that the drug has a similar effect on the insects.

Heberlein says that when flies are exposed to ethanol vapour, they become hyperactive, uncoordinated and eventually sedated.

In another discovery the research team found that, as well as making the flies more tolerant of alcohol, the hangover gene appeared to influence the way the insects responded to stressful conditions in their environment, such as increased temperature.
Title: bruised bananas
Post by: that mad man on 10/04/2007 15:54:13
Don't they use ethylene gas to prematurely redden tomatoes even though not ripe?

TMM
Title: bruised bananas
Post by: Karen W. on 11/04/2007 05:29:56
I don't know. But I do know you can ripen avacados quickly by buring them in a canister of flour for a day or so. Especially the hard er ones that would normally take longer.
You can also pick tomatoes green and clip from the vine and set in a window in the sun to ripen them. especially if there is a danger of frost etc.
Title: bruised bananas
Post by: Seany on 11/04/2007 20:43:14
Karen, have you tried the ripening of avacados? I've never heard of that before and it's interesting. I hate avacados, but my mum loves them. Maybe I should try shoving it in some flour for some fun at least.. =/
Title: bruised bananas
Post by: WylieE on 12/04/2007 00:42:56
Hi Paul. . .
For the "why" bananas get brown spots:
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6291.msg64742;topicseen#msg64742

cheers,
Colleen