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As you said this forum can find something, we have the proof. This is very encouraging for all of us.
Quote from: demografx on 11/01/2009 01:36:12TENSION RELIEVERIt's been 6 weeks. Enough! Maybe that's the right length of cycle interval for me. Do feel better, more energized "in spite of". Hope it lasts.Next endo visit/more labwork is in 3 days. As always, this place is hopping with ideas!Thanks, everyone!UPDATE: 4 HOURS LATER...TIRED
TENSION RELIEVERIt's been 6 weeks. Enough! Maybe that's the right length of cycle interval for me. Do feel better, more energized "in spite of". Hope it lasts.Next endo visit/more labwork is in 3 days. As always, this place is hopping with ideas!Thanks, everyone!
Though the use of Gandhi’s prayer “In brahmacharya lies the protection of the body, the mind and the soul” and an old piece of poetry that begins “The Lord is my shepherd…” I was able to stay focused on serving musically today. One guy learned melody construction in contemporary composition, one I taught Django Reinhart and a third Voodoo Chile (Slight Return).I took my partner to dinner at a 5 star restaurant and the total focus on sensuality, while absolutely blissful, started me dissipating. When I start with food, I quickly move to sex, and that engages one of the five stages, for me, of POIS.Got me to thinkin'... I just may become more conservative. Hmmmm...
You okay?
Got me to thinkin'... I just may become more conservative. Hmmmm...
hi guys, i'm a 23 year old healthy female, however, a day or two after an orgasm i get a couple of painful, inflamed pimples on my shoulders/back. my hormone levels are fine. i've tested this numerous times over the past few years and i'm convinced that's what my body acne is related to. does anyone have a similar problem??
my hormone levels are fine.
The 200 or so, who have posted, can be separated into about three distinct groups. The first group containsvery approximately 120 of the posters. These people share about 10 notable mental symptoms (word finding difficulty, brain fog, ...), but have no severe physical symptoms. The next group contains about 60 posters -- these people have the same mental symptoms as those in the first group, with additional physical symptoms. The third group contains people who not only have different symptoms from those in the first two groups, but who have different symptoms from one another! Nonetheless, the symptoms are often some combination of physical/mental, and are usually quite severe. Mostly, this group shares the fact that they feel some kind of symptom "post-orgasm".
The 200 or so, who have posted, can be separated into about three distinct groups. The first group contains very approximately 120 of the posters. These people share about 10 notable mental symptoms (word finding difficulty, brain fog, ...), but have no severe physical symptoms. The next group contains about 60 posters -- these people have the same mental symptoms as those in the first group, with additional physical symptoms. The third group contains people who not only have different symptoms from those in the first two groups, but who have different symptoms from one another! Nonetheless, the symptoms are often some combination of physical/mental, and are usually quite severe. Mostly, this group shares the fact that they feel some kind of symptom "post-orgasm".
"Girlwind" in particular is extremely knowledgeable in this area. She just recently completed $2,000 worth of hormone tests!
Counterpoints, extreme exhaustion and physical fatigue is my understanding of the chief POIS symptom.
Maybe there is a difference between people who post consistently vs. the one-timers? Am I missing something?
Quote from: demografx on 11/01/2009 23:59:13Counterpoints, extreme exhaustion and physical fatigue is my understanding of the chief POIS symptom.Physical fatigue simply isn't the most common symptom. There are posters with mental symptoms, without physical symptoms. And there are posters with both. And there are posters with physical symptoms, but no mental symptoms; however, these cases are extremely rare (<1%?).So it follows, naturally, that physical fatigue is not a primary symptom, though it does affect a considerable number of sufferers.As you know, Dr. Waldinger only discussed 2 patients. And some of their symptoms were rather irregular in this circle. He also emphasized that each of them had premature ejaculation, which is not something I have heard talked about here.Quote from: demografx on 11/01/2009 23:59:13Maybe there is a difference between people who post consistently vs. the one-timers? Am I missing something?I don't see why I would mention physical fatigue in the context of the above quoted post. One point, I am trying to draw attention to, is that many of us can be placed into different groups, and it is likely each group has distinct causes for the symptoms associated with that group. For instance, your high prolactin levels may have something to do with your symptoms. However, both of Dr. Waldinger's patients had normal prolactin levels (I do too, as do some of the others who have been tested here).
starting with the POIS founder, Dr. Marcel Waldinger and his 5-year observation of patients, plus the people who have posted here, exhaustion and fatigue, both physical and mental are the main complaints I see repeatedly.
edit: I've never seen the "5 year history". Where is this?
about 48-55% of responders list physical fatigue or exhaustion as a post orgasm symptom.