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Why this frog has translucent skin?
« on: 02/10/2007 20:06:17 »
Hi ,

Made some harsh remarks ... sorry for that.
Here is question:Why this frog has a translucnet skin?


 

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Why this frog has translucent skin?
« Reply #1 on: 03/10/2007 14:18:51 »
what do you mean by "why"? Do you mean: "what is the advantage of having translucent skin?" or "why (i.e. how) does it develop that way"??

I also have a couple of questions: What species is it? do you know? Is it normal for it to have translucent skin?
 

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Why this frog has translucent skin?
« Reply #2 on: 03/10/2007 15:42:09 »
Interesting question.
Sadly I dont know the species.
 

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Why this frog has translucent skin?
« Reply #3 on: 03/10/2007 16:43:22 »
Interesting looking frog!
 

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Why this frog has translucent skin?
« Reply #4 on: 03/10/2007 16:44:40 »
It could be an albino British frog,
like this one  ...
http://grandpacliff.com/Animals/Img-Animals/Img-Albinos/albino-frog-uk-b.jpg
 

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Why this frog has translucent skin?
« Reply #5 on: 03/10/2007 16:54:20 »
Let me give you another example the Green Grass Hopper is also translucent.
You can see its bones.


« Last Edit: 03/10/2007 16:57:09 by dkv »
 

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Why this frog has translucent skin?
« Reply #6 on: 03/10/2007 16:56:12 »
WOW I have NEVER seen a frogs like these before! They really do look unusual...

Do you think it is the same pigmentation scenario as a human who is basically an albino??
 

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Why this frog has translucent skin?
« Reply #7 on: 03/10/2007 16:56:38 »
Let me give you another example the Green Grass Hopper is also tranparent.
You can see its bones.


Do you have a picture?
 

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Why this frog has translucent skin?
« Reply #8 on: 03/10/2007 17:02:34 »
Yes in my mind.:-))
I found a large one in my room.
The question is why?
What kind of genetic behaviour or strategy of natural selection led to this adaptation?
 

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Why this frog has translucent skin?
« Reply #9 on: 03/10/2007 17:28:53 »
Maybe less and less exposure to light or the sun.. maybe nature is trying to protect the species from the effect of UV rays by changing the skin and forcing the frogs under protection of the shade! LOL How is that for a hair brained idea!
 

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« Reply #10 on: 03/10/2007 17:50:39 »
Or may be more and more exposure to sunlight.
Lol
 

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Why this frog has translucent skin?
« Reply #11 on: 03/10/2007 19:17:07 »
Aren't creatures and humans who are albino more prone to be hurt by the sun??
 

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« Reply #12 on: 03/10/2007 21:08:37 »
it seems that albinism is fairly common in frogs

http://www.photovault.com/Link/Animals/Amphibians/ToadsFrogs/Species/AlbinoFrogs.html [nofollow]
 

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« Reply #13 on: 03/10/2007 21:19:13 »
The middle frog link is not up yet showmen! It said soon!
 

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« Reply #14 on: 04/10/2007 09:52:05 »
Its not like these species dont like sun.They infact
enjoy sunlight.Now the question is
What kind benefit a translucent skin provides.
There are predators like snakes (for frogs) and snakes and frogs for grass hoppers.
From TSP point of view I can give an explanation.But before that what explanation do you think will be more valid?
 

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« Reply #15 on: 04/10/2007 11:06:41 »
DKV I do not know anything about your theory and only came to learn about the frog.. Sorry but you will have to wait for someone who knows more in this case.
 

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Why this frog has translucent skin?
« Reply #16 on: 04/10/2007 12:16:04 »
Let me give you another example the Green Grass Hopper is also translucent.
You can see its bones.



Grasshoppers don't have bones......
 

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« Reply #17 on: 04/10/2007 12:33:44 »
ok . then use the word skeleton.
but the truth is they are translucent and today
some 16306 species of animals are in great danger of extinction.
All these species failed to evolve or find a strategy against root causes of extinction.


 

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Why this frog has translucent skin?
« Reply #18 on: 04/10/2007 13:57:42 »
The albinism may be beneficial in that pigment production is costly, and supposing that the albinism did not dramatically increase the vulnerability to predation or internal weaknesses, it would actually be advantageous.
 

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« Reply #19 on: 04/10/2007 14:49:56 »
Yes. It has to be.
Is there any genetic link?
I mean is there any strategy towards greater fitness?
Is red frog the leader ?
Or the pigmented ones force slavery?
 

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« Reply #20 on: 05/10/2007 01:23:51 »
There is no strategy towards greater survival and reproductive success. An organism simply has the successful trait or it doesn't. If it does, the successful trait survives and is passed on to the next generation, to continue evolving.

Yes, albinisms is genetic. It is caused by pigment genes being turned off or mutating to a form in which the gene can no longer code for pigment.
 

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Why this frog has translucent skin?
« Reply #21 on: 05/10/2007 05:18:22 »
What a argument?!!
It explains nothing.
The existence of unfavourable genetic trait is not ruled out and existence favourable trait can not be explained.
What exactly it says is :
After thousands of years of reproduction one can find the differential change in Species.
After impossibly long and unverifiable period of thousand year one will find that favourable trait survives and unfavourable doesnt.
I wonder why you even tell me this ?
You are not telling me anything which I can falsify.
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There are frogs with pigments and there are without.

If I ask what benefit albinism brings to the genetic pool of the frogs what would you say?
If I ask which trait will survive what will you say?


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There is no predictive power in gene replciation theory and therefore no value can be  derived from the theory.With respect to the Human like species the asymetric distribution of genes(collection of similar traits with respect to parents.. in different chormosome pools) provides the framework for discussions which are locally opportunistic in explaining behaviours.
It ignores the contradictions.
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MY RESPONSE:
If I ask what benefit albinism brings to the genetic pool of the frogs what would you say?
REP: I will say albinism is an aggressive strategy towards greater pleasure... and because pleasure is also a chemical state we can not rule out the possibility of chemcial reaction triggered by light rays to produce a happiness.

If I ask which trait will survive what will you say?
REP: I will both will survive..

The basis is TSP and it explains and predicts.
 

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« Reply #22 on: 17/10/2007 18:34:50 »
I saw this happen with a frog sub human clone they are very dangerous and in this one confrontation with this lady she told the clone I can see right threw you it is very clear.
The clones skin turn clear like that frog and you could see write into that monster.
So they have a low hypnotic level and some how some thing got to the frog to change into a clear coat.
 

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« Reply #23 on: 21/11/2007 18:55:18 »
I kept a frog with translucent skin similar to this ,called xenopus leavis for 25 years. It's an aquatic frog, although it's name is South African clawed toad- a misnomer. It has the ability to match its skin colour to its surroundings for camouflage. If you keep it in a glass tank it goes semi-seethrough, so you can feed it a worm and watch it digest it- fabulous!
 

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Why this frog has translucent skin?
« Reply #24 on: 18/11/2010 19:54:00 »
I don't know what advantages clear skin would provide to a frog in the wild. It actually makes it easier for their predators to spot them. Most frogs developed green and yellow skin as camouflage, or whatever color they developed. Clear skin might help if a frog was able to fly, because then it would be harder to spot than a green frog, but obviously frogs can't fly so this doesn't apply. But there might eventually be a frog that can fly. Or there might already be one and it just hasn't been discovered. There are so many more animals being discovered every year that it wouldn't be too suprising if one was discovered. But anyway, if the frog lives in a area where predators aren't a big issue then the albinism would be beneficial because they wouldn't have to waste the energy required to make the pigments that a green frog has. Although it wouldn't be much of a difference in the ammount of energy consumption, it would still be some.
 

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