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Offline Hadrian

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« on: 05/11/2007 10:30:11 »
"Conscious" could be defined as whatever you are aware of at a moment in time. "Unconscious" is everything else. So as you change focus consciously or by something in your external reality garbs your notices the relationship between Conscious and the Unconscious alters. what if anything would you think is the advantage to such a relationship.


 

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« Reply #1 on: 05/11/2007 12:54:45 »
Is it because we have different 'processors' for current events and remembered events? It reminds me of an almost philosophical question I ask myself sometimes - 'What is the present?'. It seems like it is a vanishingly small point of perception, that, like the speed of light, can only ever be approached but never quite reached. If we can never quite get a grasp of the present can we ever be truly conscious? We can only ever process information about stuff that has recently happened...

Of course this means that when I refer to a processor for current events, I actually mean a processor for information which has just come in via the senses (and therefore, since it has already occured, is no longer current).
 

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« Reply #2 on: 05/11/2007 13:19:22 »
I would expect the advantage is that you can 'filter out' all the normal, non-important info your senses receive, and divert more resources to the thing you have become concious of.  So in the flight or fight response, you become unconscious to most stimuli and can concentrate on the perceived threat.

For example, you're at home listening to the radio alone and a bit hungry, and then you think you hear someone upstairs.  Very quickly you will forget your hunger, not take on any of the content of the radio show you were listening to and become very concious of other element in your house - sounds, breezes, doors left open etc...
 

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« Reply #3 on: 05/11/2007 15:22:51 »
Is it because we have different 'processors' for current events and remembered events? It reminds me of an almost philosophical question I ask myself sometimes - 'What is the present?'. It seems like it is a vanishingly small point of perception, that, like the speed of light, can only ever be approached but never quite reached. If we can never quite get a grasp of the present can we ever be truly conscious? We can only ever process information about stuff that has recently happened...

Of course this means that when I refer to a processor for current events, I actually mean a processor for information which has just come in via the senses (and therefore, since it has already occured, is no longer current).

I think we could open up a vast subject around perception is projection and other ideas that could be linked to quantum physics. (which i will do) my interest is in the use of the Conscious and Unconscious as a useful model (accepting there is no proof of their existence) in working with people to create positive change. i have seen what look like Unconscious choices being played out that the Conscious can only control or stop when actively focused on the the choice.
 

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« Reply #4 on: 05/11/2007 15:26:26 »
I would expect the advantage is that you can 'filter out' all the normal, non-important info your senses receive, and divert more resources to the thing you have become concious of.  So in the flight or fight response, you become unconscious to most stimuli and can concentrate on the perceived threat.

For example, you're at home listening to the radio alone and a bit hungry, and then you think you hear someone upstairs.  Very quickly you will forget your hunger, not take on any of the content of the radio show you were listening to and become very concious of other element in your house - sounds, breezes, doors left open etc...

yes this is what i have found too. of course the filters are distorting and deleting like mad to point where no two people are in the same reality construct.
 

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« Reply #5 on: 12/11/2007 17:03:09 »
thats one of the draws back of the Unconscious. Sometimes you have to wait .............. LOL
 

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