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« Reply #25 on: 19/10/2004 20:53:05 »
Evolution is not a religion. It is based on facts. It has absolutely nothing to do with a Dog making a Not-dog, and to repeat this sort of nonsense simply gives ammunition to the christian fascists who are tryng to replace science with know-nothingism and make the bible and it's authoritarian, question nothing values the rule of the land.

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« Reply #26 on: 19/10/2004 22:14:09 »
Just in case any of you have NOT voted, I'd thought I'd post this link to the 'God' opinion poll http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=903&SearchTerms=do,you,believe,in,GOD

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« Reply #27 on: 19/10/2004 23:07:33 »
quote:
Originally posted by Elastic

Evolution is not a religion. It is based on facts. It has absolutely nothing to do with a Dog making a Not-dog, and to repeat this sort of nonsense simply gives ammunition to the christian fascists who are tryng to replace science with know-nothingism and make the bible and it's authoritarian



I have no religion, I have personal -theory- about what happens when people pass.

  Please, please, PLEASE post to one site that proves evolution with facts I can visit and study.. please!  Send me to the truth.. and no Religion HAS no, "ammunition" it is all faith on old texts.

  I can understand people following their fathers but I'm not your father's son.

monkey hit wall.. wall real, monkey real.
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« Reply #28 on: 19/10/2004 23:55:37 »
quote:
Originally posted by Raedon

quote:
Originally posted by Elastic

Evolution is not a religion. It is based on facts. It has absolutely nothing to do with a Dog making a Not-dog, and to repeat this sort of nonsense simply gives ammunition to the christian fascists who are tryng to replace science with know-nothingism and make the bible and it's authoritarian



I have no religion, I have personal -theory- about what happens when people pass.

  Please, please, PLEASE post to one site that proves evolution with facts I can visit and study.. please!  Send me to the truth.. and no Religion HAS no, "ammunition" it is all faith on old texts.

  I can understand people following their fathers but I'm not your father's son.

monkey hit wall.. wall real, monkey real.




so.....what's your theory ?

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« Reply #29 on: 20/10/2004 03:03:52 »
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so.....what's your theory ?




  Well, first off.. it is my own so it's not up for debate.  

It also has changed over the last five years and probably will until I die.

I think that we are all novelty of one stream of consciousness.  For some reason this consciousness is schizophrenic and we are the result and in a sense we are all "soulmates."

At death we loose ego (I will no longer be Wes) and rejoin with this stream which is just complete understanding of infinity making it seem finite in understandability.  Beyond that who knows.. should be fun to find out one day.




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« Reply #30 on: 20/10/2004 12:07:07 »
Raedon

I had a similar 'idea' when questioning the nature of consciousness.

Gods bored with being omni-present, omni-potent, omni-----, to experience limitations his consciousness is scattered and limited, we are all parts of the god consciousness, we just don't realise it.

A new religion, based on a single axiom, with no proof, could work.

Its Fideist (requires faith as its main tenet), so should satisfy most (Catholics see fideism as heretical).

Lets give it a go.
 

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« Reply #31 on: 20/10/2004 14:03:32 »
This is a pretty good link for anyone wanting to read up on the theory of evolution:

http://www.txtwriter.com/Backgrounders/Evolution/EVcontents.html

and yes, thats exactly what it is - a theory. science is basically a whole heap of theories waiting to be proven or disproven. even when we think we've found the answer to something there are usually exceptions, which bascially show that we havn't yet uncovered the whole story.

The only reason this theory has become as contentious as it has is because it goes against the creationist view of the church. whichever you believe is entirely up to you, but there's a whole load more evidence for evolution that there is creation.
 

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« Reply #32 on: 20/10/2004 14:46:43 »
My debate on this is only that it is tought as fact instead of theory.  Other then that, evolution is a more educated look at how we got here.
 

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« Reply #33 on: 20/10/2004 15:28:33 »
Evolution is only a religion (whatever that means) if you believe that the whole world was "made" in 7 days. Which also goes against the whole field of Geology and common sense.... look at Hawaii its still being formed to this day. I have many Christian friends, but they interpret the bible whilst following common sense.

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« Reply #34 on: 20/10/2004 16:45:42 »
What ever you believe in, or not believe in, is so subjective that what ever you say you feel is right when it comes to your faith, your lack of faith, your religion or lack of religion...or whatever.....will always be open to scrutiny and debate.....the only fact that I can see is that we can never prove (at this time)one way or another that there is a god ...or not...and that's why threads like this go on and on and on and on...ad infinitum.....the conclusion is, if you are happy with what you believe in , then that's just just lovely and nice.....it's the ones who impose their own beliefs onto others with a lack of respect that pisses me off....

....also, Raedon (Wes), I just don't think you can get away with saying 'it's my theory and is not up for debate' when you yourself have already entered into a debate about someone elses belief.....anyway..thats what I have to say about that:)

I still like your car though....give us the stats on it will ya ?:D



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« Reply #35 on: 20/10/2004 16:50:48 »
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Originally posted by neilep
also, Raedon (Wes), I just don't think you can get away with saying 'it's my theory and is not up for debate' when you yourself have already entered into a debate about someone elses belief.....anyway..thats what I have to say about that:)

I still like your car though....give us the stats on it will ya ?:D




Point taken.  and thanks!  The car has special Mojo powers on women. :)

As for the evolution is a religion thought.  Religions are fact to those who believe them even though there is no proof.  Evolution is not a fact but is considered fact by many and in the first elementary school Science texts as fact.

  I guess I mean it is like religion not IS one.
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« Reply #36 on: 20/10/2004 16:56:56 »
oh.. and it's a 99 Corvette FRC, Stage II heads and cam, TPIS long tube headers, cat delete x-pipe, 100 shot NOS threw a Vararam intake, ported throttle body, t1 sway bars, slammed one 1", Ripper shifter, HUD, 0-178 in a mile on the juice.  The ghost flames have 15 hidden skulls that can only be seen in the right light.  The car appears to be black from 10 feet away.


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« Reply #37 on: 20/10/2004 17:35:29 »
WES....My word !!.....I wish I understood one thing you said about your car (that's me being cheeky)...but I'm sitting here thousands of miles away well impressed.. !!..what's the BHP and you have a V8 in there eh ?...and it looks cooooooooooool !!...actually..what I did understand was the top speed 178...phew !!..of course we're talking MPH here yes not..kph eh ?


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« Reply #38 on: 20/10/2004 21:26:35 »
it's right at 600 HP at the crank and 596 torque.  I's a LS1 which is 350 Cu. inches of V-8.  It actually gets great gas milage on the highway 31 MPG or I guess.

 286.463 Kilometers per hour, 49.8897 Kilometers per gallon or.. ahh forget it lol.. I still can't beleve we didn't go metric in the 70's.

EDIT: oh and that isn't the top speed, that is just how fast it goes from a dead stop in a mile.  Top speed is unknown.


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« Reply #39 on: 20/10/2004 22:11:34 »
I wanna ride...me me me me me me me......me want ride........

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« Reply #40 on: 21/10/2004 04:26:25 »
quote:
Originally posted by Sandwalker

Raedon

I had a similar 'idea' when questioning the nature of consciousness.

Gods bored with being omni-present, omni-potent, omni-----, to experience limitations his consciousness is scattered and limited, we are all parts of the god consciousness, we just don't realise it.

A new religion, based on a single axiom, with no proof, could work.

Its Fideist (requires faith as its main tenet), so should satisfy most (Catholics see fideism as heretical).

Lets give it a go.



The problem is, I've lost ego many times before in my youth by removing space time threw compounds (and Greatful Dead tours.)

  The power at the end of the Mandala is seperate from this consciousness we are part of.  I don't think god has consciousness but the power of the geometer creates novelty.

It's so deep it hurts to think about without espresso.



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« Reply #41 on: 22/10/2004 22:39:56 »
Me want to ride in that car too!!![8D][8D][8D] Yeh baby
 

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« Reply #42 on: 22/10/2004 23:18:20 »
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Me want to ride in that car too!!![8D][8D][8D] Yeh baby



If you were only 3500 or so miles closer, I could arrange that [8D]

or 5,632.69 Kilometers.. ..whatever..
 

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« Reply #43 on: 22/10/2004 23:39:14 »
Oh I see, the bitch (sorry Claire, street speak ok) gets a definitive answer cos she's a girly...where I (as a bloke) who's well up for it......doesn't......hmmpth !!!...that's sexism for ya........what about if I wore a skirt and no knickers ?

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« Reply #44 on: 23/10/2004 00:03:45 »
Hey Claire and all other girlies....whould you like to go for a ride in MY babe magnet ?

just form an orderly queue:D:D

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« Reply #45 on: 23/10/2004 00:31:27 »
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what about if I wore a skirt and no knickers ?



I don't know.. how sexy are you in a skirt?  :D


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« Reply #46 on: 24/10/2004 18:43:58 »
Me want ride to!

More fun than navel contemplation.
 

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« Reply #47 on: 24/10/2004 18:48:50 »
The only reality is the now! All else is hearsay and memory.

(Devils advocate am I.)
 

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« Reply #48 on: 24/10/2004 20:56:46 »
quote:
Originally posted by Raedon

quote:
Originally posted by neilep

what about if I wore a skirt and no knickers ?


I don't know.. how sexy are you in a skirt?  :D






WES....you'd be proud to show me off wouldn't ya ?..this just guarantees me a ride in your car eh ?

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« Reply #49 on: 24/10/2004 22:25:41 »
I... I.. don't know what to say.. O.o;


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